[THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
- From: "Matt Kosht" <matt.kosht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:59:09 -0400
I think we have cooler heads here then most lists.
Having said that... it's marshmallow time :)
Not sure of the logic behind resistance to open source software.
Enterprises and their vendors (HP, IBM, Sun, etc) all have embraced it
to a large degree. So there is certainly support for it beyond a few
techno-geeks.
Most use open source software and even operating systems and a few may
not even realize it. Freelists.org for example uses Linux, Apache,
PHP and OpenSSL. Everytime you Google (Linux) or Yahoo (FreeBSD) you use
it.
How many here use VNC or one of it's many children? How many think
because it's open source, they shouldn't use it? How many would rather
pay over $100 USD for PCAnywhere to get the same (or less)
functionality?
I just don't see the sense in ignoring it.
>>> nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 8/31/2004 11:21:54 AM >>>
Now, on most lists, that'd be a signal to get the marshmallows out,
sit
back and relax.:)
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From: Minero Hector B DLVA [mailto:MineroHB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 31 August 2004 16:12
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
No, I can't say I have. I've known about RDesktop for a while, but
I'm
hesitant to standarize on an Open Source client.
Hector.-
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:03 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
Hector,
Have you tried RDesktop or other RDP clients for UNIX or Java??
Steve Greenberg
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Minero Hector B DLVA
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 5:56 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
As long as Microsoft does not release a Unix (Solaris) RDP
client, I'll continue to use Citrix.
Hector.-
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Beckett
[mailto:Bill.beckett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:41 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
I'm kind of going back to the original thread
here....not going to get in between Ron and Phil.
So, point being made, if I'm understanding this
correctly is...Citrix has limited use if you are running Windows 2003.
What is your outlook for the future of Citrix?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:Roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:37 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
Your kidding right? What metrics are you using
to compare the two protocols, and what is the pay pack?
Ron
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Newman, Phil
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:58 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
The main driver I have seen for Citrix recently
is the bandwidth issue, in implementing a new farm - we found that the
bandwidth required for Terminal server, and hence the increase in
Network cost - exceeds the cost of the Citrix licenses...
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: 26 August 2004 15:15
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
Hmmm...upgrade 5 users to Citrix on Win2k = c.
$2000(I think). Upgrade
5 usrs from win2k to w2k3 = c. $750.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Howarth
[mailto:tom.howarth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 26 August 2004 14:54
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
True, but in a environment where they do not
have any terminal services, it is very difficult to see a compelling
argument for Ctx
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Beckett
Sent: 26 August 2004 14:39
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
Well the cost of 2003 is upgrading to 2003 if
you're not there yet.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Howarth
[mailto:tom.howarth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:39 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP Vs. ICA Client
Cost, no Citrix tax. With windows 2003 there is
little or no advantage in using ica locally.
A native windows 2003 with a WTS gateway will
provide almost the same experience as a Citrix XPa environment with
none
of the added expense
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: 26 August 2004 14:26
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] RDP Vs. ICA Client
I'm just curious about something within this
group.
I've noticed more people than I expcected using
RDP to connect their users to their Metaframe servers. I've always
been
a big ICA client person myself. I'm just curious to see what benefits
some folks see w/ the RDP client over the ICA client, or is it just
preference?
Thanks.
Jay
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