Exactly. My goal is to provide 20 second logon and logoff performance for all of our users. We are right about there. After shaking some bugs out with Tricerat I think Simplify will fit the need. We were able to get Flex down even faster, but I guess officially we cheated. Instead of telling Flex what we wanted to ³roam² for the user, we went the opposite route and told it to grab everything except for certain keys. That¹s probably not the recommended way, but the logos were unbelievably fast less than 10 seconds at the time. From: Toby <toby.percival@xxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 12:23:46 +0100 To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [THIN] Re: Profiles on Citrix Thanks Michael, I will try the same. Anything to improve the mood of our beloved users! T. On 5/18/07, Michael Pardee <pardeemp.list@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > We've been testing Tricerat's Simplify Profiles product and just ran in to the > same issue with the Internet Explorer Branding policy. What we've noticed is > that it may have something to do with the mandatory profile that we are using. > It was built from a system with IE, moved to a common network share, and then > locked down via permissions. Just for grins I copied that mandatory profile > to a test share and applied it to a few of us that are testing. I then opened > up the permissions to see if that made any difference and the "branding..." > part of the logon process flew by in a second or two. Haven't had a lot of > time to go back and figure all of this out yet, but I'm going to see if we can > figure out what pieces need updated in our mandatory profile for IE7, make the > changes, and then lock the profile down again. > > Not sure if this is the same thing that is slowing you down, but it is what > seems to be causing it in our environment. Thanks for reminding me that I > need to dig in to this one again. > > > > From: Toby <toby.percival@xxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: < thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:38:33 +0100 > To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Profiles on Citrix > > 45 seconds is a long time. In fact, I have just timed logging in from a client > pc, using a mandatory profile, located on the DC, and it took 57 seconds. I > repeated the same test on multiple servers, and the time averaged 59 seconds. > > 0-7 seconds - applying personal settings, registry settings > 8-40 seconds - applying internet explorer branding policy > 40-42 - applying personal settings > 43 - 59 secs - applying login scripts > > System is PS4.5, Windows 2003 Server SP2, with IE7. > > I believe IE7 is responsible for slowing the time down by 15 seconds or more. > I will investigate how I can improve the load time of the 'internet explorer > branding policy'. > > > On 5/18/07, Angus Macdonald <Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> It's hard to say with any certainty. Presumably your mandatory profile is >> being dragged from a network location whereas our defaults are stored locally >> on each server. Conversely, the flex profile loading takes a finite amount of >> time. I wouldn't imagine you'd see a great performance increase with flex >> profiles. 45 secs sounds like a lot of time though. Can you guess how much of >> that is profile loading and processing? In my (not considerable) experience, >> all sorts of things can slow logins. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf >>> Of Toby >>> Sent: 18 May 2007 10:12 >>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [THIN] Re: Profiles on Citrix >>> >>> Hi Angus, >>> >>> As we are using 95% mandatory profiles, the only issue I have encountered is >>> performance. For example, a user logon takes approximately 45 seconds, >>> including login scripts etc.. Would you be able to guestimate how much time >>> I could save by using flex? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> T. >>> >>> On 5/18/07, Angus Macdonald < Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> <mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >>>> We had all sorts of profile troubles before went with flex profiles. >>>> Everybody gets a default profile at login, which is then modified by >>>> loading the flex component and a bit of Kix -scripting for particular >>>> groups. At logout the flex settings are saved before the profile type is >>>> tweaked in the registry to make it appear as a mandatory profile, ensuring >>>> it's dropped as the session closes. >>>> >>>> Since starting down this route, our profile problems have vanished. >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [ mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> On Behalf Of bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Sent: 17 May 2007 21:08 >>>>> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [THIN] Profiles on Citrix >>>>> >>>>> Gentlemen: >>>>> >>>>> Running PS 4.0 on Windows 2003 servers. About a dozen servers. >>>>> >>>>> We've been using roaming profiles straight out of the box, MS box, for a >>>>> while now. They're ok but just the nature of the beast in how they work >>>>> will cause their fair share of problems. I know there are several >>>>> alternatives out there, flex profiles for one. Can anyone give me some >>>>> feedback on your implementation and results for any solution, be it flex >>>>> profiles or some other alternative? I've heard talk of some type of >>>>> database or dynamic solution that sounded good. >>>>> >>> > >