[THIN] Re: Profile redirection
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:09:53 -0700
I like flex a lot, but it add quite a bit of complexity to an already
complex solution. Many administrators still do not grasp the basic
concepts of Terminal Server such as Shadow Keys, Application Compatibility
Scripts, root drive (Compatibility Drive), usrlogn1.cmd vs usrlogn2.cmd,
\Windows in the home directory, etc. So given that, it is difficult to
teach a new administrator the concepts of profiling an application to
determine which registry keys/file s to import and export when they do not
have a clear understand of how profiles themselves work.
As SBC becomes more prevalent it is also becoming more a commodity of which
companies are having to higher lesser skilled admins as the higher skilled
ones are already taken.
Anyone can type "change user /install" in a command prompt and install an
application. And that's the type of thinking many managers have. But what
happens when something goes wrong, terribly wrong? Who's has the skill
sets to troubleshoot and fix it then? What about the "one" LOB app that's
not working after it was installed because all the users are referencing the
same .ini (not in the Windows directory) that also happens to have a station
Id embedded in it.
If you can get roaming profiles w/ folder redirection to work on its own
(and for the most part it does) that's the best route to go. At least if
something goes wrong, you can call Microsoft for Support.
Flex may be free, but there is no vendor support (not with out a consulting
agreement). If a company needs/wants to go down the flex path then it is
preferable to point them to a third-party product (Tricerat for example) as
then you'll have vendor support.
If a company wants flex, does not want to spend money, and has the necessary
skill sets then I will suggest login's flex profiles.
Don't get me wrong, Login Consultant's flex profile is an great tool. I
know a few of the guys there too and they are great too. It's been fun
having this discussion with them as well.
Joe
On Dec 29, 2007 2:17 AM, Berny Stapleton <berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> My vote for profiles (For medium to large installs) has always been
> flex profiles.
>
> If the customer only has two servers, there really isn't a requirement
> for flex from what I have seen, just decent profile management is
> enough.
>
> If you have multiple Citrix servers, and more than say 50 users, I
> would start looking at flex profiles for your Citrix servers, and
> quite possibly your desktops. Roaming profiles in general are the root
> of all evil IMHO, so flex tends to tidy this one up nicely.
>
>
> http://portal.loginconsultants.nl/forum/index.php?board=16;action=display;threadid=1144
>
> Berny
>
> On 28/12/2007, Medeiros, Jim <Jim.Medeiros@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Correct. If you want to redirect then you are saying that you want to
> put
> > them some place else (in effect).
> >
> >
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> > Of Evan Mann
> > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:25 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Profile redirection
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> >
> >
> >
> > This is a pretty newbish question, but I just want to confirm. If you
> are
> > doing roaming profiles (be it for TS/Citrix or fat clients), you
> wouldn't
> > want to redirect (via GPO) your My Documents/Desktops/Application Data
> into
> > the location you are using for roaming profiles, correct? If you did
> that,
> > then those redirected folders would copy with the roaming profile?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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