[THIN] Re: Print Server / Citrix design question - urgent

If you get a pc with an Intel Vpro chipset you will be able to remote
control and reset remotely via bios.  And way less than the cost of a
server. Most dells and HP's are now offereing them.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/command-conquer,1591.html

Dell even has a free plugin to Altiris management console to make remote
changes to the Vpro systems as well as even reflash.  I think it is
something like altiris.com/delldeploy
Jim Kenzig


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Angela Smith <angela_smith9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>
> Hi RickI was looking at using desktop class hardware but Im concerned about
> manageability.  Eg if it bluescreens or looses LAN connectivity.  I like the
> idea of having a ILO (HP Servers) as we have many sites around the country.
>  I was looking at HP ML Class hardware and would be happy to go down this
> path.  I just dont want to deploy 30 Print Servers to our branch offices
> only to find out its better to use a centralised Print Server..Would I be
> correct in saying I need to use indirect Printing if the Print Server is in
> each office?  Can I not control Printer bandwidth using Universal driver in
> indirect mode?I will look into Print-IT - thanks..Would third party drivers
> make my life easier if we had local Print servers in each office?  We tried
> this a while back but had many spooler crashes with HP drivers hence our
> reason to go universal...ThanksDate: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:05:04 -0400From:
> ulrich.mack@xxxxxxxxxxx: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [THIN] Re: Print
> Server / Citrix design question - urgentHi Angela,
>
> You aren't going to have an ideal scenario with a pure Citrix solution at
> this point in time.
>
> However you'll get the smallest WAN printing payload (and quickest
> printing) if you make sure that each site has it's own print server. That
> way you can use UPD only with no additional SMB-based printing traffic.
> AOpen have a very small PC that's almost identical to a Mac Mini (but black)
> that makes an excellent unobtrusive print server for remote offices.
>
>
>
> The one downside to that appraoch is that one person's print job can starve
> everyone else on that site of WAN bandwidth. That's why a UPD solution that
> let's you print efficiently outside a Citrix session is so much more
> valuable.
>
>
> Having a centralized print server is better from the viewpoint of
> controlling printing bandwidth utilization outside the ICA channel, but if
> it's not at all ideal in terms of WAN printing payload unless you use a
> third party UPD solution.
>
>
> Incidentally Provision Network's Print-IT is an excellent solution UPD
> solution that's quite as good as Thinprint and not nearly as expensive.
>
> regards,
>
> Rick
>
>
> -- Ulrich MackQuest SoftwareProvision Networks Division
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Angela Smith <angela_smith9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> HiIm looking at making changes to our existing farm as Printing is not
> currently setup optimally.  We run Windows 2003 Presentation Server 4 farm
> with a centralised MS Windos 2003 Print Server.  The Citrix farm and MS
> Print Server are on the same network.  All our clients are across the WAN on
> 1Mb frame relay links.  We have several sites that are 100% Citrix with
> Windows XP clients that are setup with client network printers which are
> autocreated in Citrix.  We use Citrix universal drivers only (No third party
> HP drivers used).
> Now my question is....  Am I better to use a centralised MS Print Server or
> should I have a Print Server in each office?  I want to minimise the amount
> of traffic on the WAN as the links are small and often get saturated.  Ive
> read numerous documents and am confused now in relation to the best way to
> setup printing.  I want to minimise WAN traversal as much as possible and I
> don't want documents spooling over the WAN.  PDF documents can be very big
> and a 100MB spooled job will take hours to print over a 1MB link.
> What do you suggest?  Should I be using Indirect Printing?  Should each
> site have a MS Print Server? By the way, we do not have budget for THinPrint
> or ScrewDrivers so I need to make do with Citrix functionality.  Please help
> as I am out of ideas and am close to removing Citrix all together...
> ThanksAngela
>
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