[THIN] Re: Pano VDI Solution

they can always buy them.  EMC has never been shy about acquisitions.  Maybe
that's why they are putting up the disinterested ugly front.  Maybe they're
working on a deal and they don't want MS, HP, IBM, Citrix etc to catch wind
of it.



On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Douglas Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Of course... But net2display is vdi or helps vdi, right???
>
> I think vmware is doing something with rdp and they don't want anyone to
> know.  They have to be...  RDP sucks as a remoting protocol for VDI.  I'm
> sorry but it does.  There is not many people that love Vmware's VDM more
> than me but it breaks when I use it as I have to use RDP (use it over
> anything but a LAN and even then it sucks for anything intensive)
>
> Vmware is not dumb, they need a fix... The need to do something and
> net2display could be an answer but Vmware can't wait 2 years for it...
>
> Ideas?
>
>
>
>
> On 6/7/08 2:08 PM, "Greg Reese" <gareese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I don't care what VMWare marketing spin says, EMC is against anything that
> isn't ESX  or VDI.
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Douglas Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Great question.  I want to learn more myself.  Everything I read about it
> is good.  The big problem I've been told about it is that the big boy
> (Microsoft, Vmware, Citrix) don't want anything to do with it and that
> because of this it will not get the buyoff it needs to more of a standarized
> remoting protocol.   I would be interested to know what you guys this of
> this too?  Again, this is what I'm told and I can think of a few reasons
> Microsoft and Citrix would not like it but I don't know why Vmware would be
> against it.
>
> Thanks.  This is a great topic....  A beefy remoting protocol is really
> needed...
>
>
>
>
> On 6/7/08 12:26 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <
> http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> I haven't found any more detail information about Net2Display, do you have
> any links that might show an implementation or at least the planned feature
> set and performance characteristics?
>
>
>
>
> *Steve Greenberg
> *
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>
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> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  [
> mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf
> Of *Rick Mack
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:21 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Pano VDI Solution
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
>
>
> Panologic and also Teradici have a hardware remoting protocol that has
> completely transparent hardware (graphics, keyboard/mouse, USB etc)
> "redirection". This means that multimedia performance and just about
> everything else will be as good as on a PC, at least for LAN-based thin
> clients. The good news for hardware manufacturers is that the "back-end"
> systems are blade PCs.
>
>
>
> The largest single drawback with a Panalogic/Teradici type solution is the
> hardware support required at both ends, and the fact that the protocol is
> proprietary.
>
>
>
> Remote/WAN access is still going to be a problem with stuff like latency
> etc but that may very well be handled by the new VESA Net2Display protocol
> which will handle LAN clients as well. If Net2Display takes off, the
> relevance of RDP and ICA could become questionable. Since Teradici are
> heavily involved with Net2Display, it's probably a good guess that they will
> soon have Net2Display support in their hardware. That makes it
> non-proprietary and may well point to the future of thin clients.
>
>
>
> regards,
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>

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