Ok let me give another idea then... how about you don't create the icons on the desktop and only on the start menu in a FOLDER you specify. Could you not then just have a shortcut to the folder created already on the desktop and it would remain in the same place always? Jim Jeff Pitsch > wrote: I'm telling you, citrix recreates the icons on refresh. It's a logical course of action because if the user is removed from accessing an application then PNA must delete the icon. Jeff On 1/30/06, Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: One other thing that struck me that you might try...make his home desktop icons read only and see if they move. I know there are all sorts of utilities out there to lock the desktop. Wonder if you have to go down that road. Jim Evan Mann < wrote: Windows desktop. Auto arrange is turned off for this user. --------------------------------- From: thin-bounce@freel ists.org [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:55 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: PN Agent app refresh Are you talking about the icons on the desktop or the start menu? That is a windows function under view of the appropriate folder. You need to uncheck autoarrange. JK Jeff Pitsch <> wrote: I do not think there is because PNA is actually recreating the icons when it refreshes. Jeff On 1/30/06, Evan Mann <.com> wrote: Is there a way to stop PNAgent from moving all your icons around when it does an app refresh at logon to the client? Jim Kenzig CEO The Kenzig Group http://www.kenzig.com Sponsorships Available! Blog: http://www.techblink.com Terminal Services Downloads: http://www.thinhelp.com Windows Vista: http://www.VistaPop.com Virtualization: http://www.virtualize-it.com Games: http://www.stressedpuppy.com Jim Kenzig CEO The Kenzig Group http://www.kenzig.com Sponsorships Available! Blog: http://www.techblink.com Terminal Services Downloads: http://www.thinhelp.com Windows Vista: http://www.VistaPop.com Virtualization: http://www.virtualize-it.com Games: http://www.stressedpuppy.com