The PIX is a very good box. I just wish people would STOP using CONDUIT statements on their PIX and move to ACL's damn it! Chris -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Riggins Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:46 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Opinion I'm with Evan on the PIX. You just can't beat the reliability.=20 I have a lot of Sonicwalls out there, too. I've had a slew of software and hardware problems with them, but the GUI makes it easy to configure. Roger -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Mann Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:36 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Opinion I've used Cisco PIX's and Watchguard Firebox series extensively. The PIX is a better device IMO, but the Watchguard gives you some added features, such as the ability to have a webblocker, built in logging (no need to dump to syslog), an easier to use GUI (when compared to PDM on the PIX). There's a few other things you can license to make the Watchguard more of an all-in-one as opposed to a firewall only like the PIX's are. I havn't used the new Firebox X series, but used the II/III and under heavy load, I've had both models lock up on me, requiring hard reboot. I'm more of a CLI guy, and the Watchguard's have no CLI, so keep that in mind if you are a CLI type of guy. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Beckett Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:19 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Opinion Just want to get the illustrious list's opinion on firewalls out there. We currently run a Netware product and are looking to replace it. 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