[THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem

Exchange does have an option to forward all mail to a given domain to a
particular host. this would be the situation to use this.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Sieff [mailto:hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:05 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> 
> 
> Oh cr-p, is it htdlaw.com?
> 
> I've been tshooting hDtlaw.com.
> 
> Yeah, they have no MX record for that domain. Any mail they receive is
> purely co-incidental. Actually, they have an A record; some 
> mail servers
> will deliver to an A record if there is no MX for a domain, 
> but exchange
> ain't one of them.
> 
> You could make your name server a fake authoritative one for 
> the domain
> htdlaw.com and add your own MX, but you're better off telling 
> htdlaw.com to
> fix their NS also.
> 
> Man is my face red. . .
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ryan Lambert [mailto:rlambert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:28 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > 
> > 
> > Michael,
> > 
> > Because no mx exists.
> > 
> > http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=3Dhtdlaw.com
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Boggan [mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:17 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > 
> > Ok.  I have reverse dns setup for my mail server at 
> > vdimail.com.  I try
> > sending to the email address at htdlaw.com and it still will 
> > not go.  My
> > mail goes through trend viruswall so I can see it on the 
> > screen when it
> > goes
> > through.  Normally it will process the mail then report message
> > forwarded to
> > whatever server at whatever domain, but with this one it just 
> > processes
> > the
> > message but doesn't send it.  If you look in the queued 
> > message file, it
> > gives a message about unknown domain or address.  It CAN'T 
> find an mx
> > record
> > for the domain.  This is really driving me nuts.  Any other 
> > suggestions?
> > 
> > > _________________________________=20
> > >=20
> > > Michael Boggan
> > > Network Engineer/Citrix Admin
> > > Virtual Desktop Inc.=20
> > > Dallas, Texas=20
> > > Ph: (972) 960-6400=20
> > > Fax: (972) 960-6445=20
> > > email: mboggan@xxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > http://www.virtualdesktopinc.com=20
> > > _________________________________=20
> > >=20
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henry Sieff [mailto:hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:17 PM
> > To: Michael Boggan
> > Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > 
> > 
> > OK, like I said, first thing is to have your ISP delegate the
> > in-addr.arpa
> > space for your IP block to your ns's. After that, creating a ptr is
> > pretty
> > easy in win2k, if memory serves me correctly (I us BIND for 
> DNS, which
> > is
> > all config file based, but I have at least one machine set up with
> > Win2K's
> > DNs if you need a hand there.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Boggan [mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:35 PM
> > > To: 'Henry Sieff'
> > > Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Yeah.
> > >=20
> > > > _________________________________
> > > >=20
> > > > Michael Boggan
> > > > Network Engineer/Citrix Admin
> > > > Virtual Desktop Inc.
> > > > Dallas, Texas=20
> > > > Ph: (972) 960-6400=20
> > > > Fax: (972) 960-6445=20
> > > > email: mboggan@xxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > > http://www.virtualdesktopinc.com=20
> > > > _________________________________=20
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Henry Sieff [mailto:hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:56 PM
> > > To: Michael Boggan
> > > Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > You're using Win2K's built in DNS stuff?
> > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Boggan [mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 11:04 AM
> > > > To: 'Henry Sieff'
> > > > Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Yes those name servers are on our network.  We control them.
> > > >=20
> > > > > _________________________________
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Michael Boggan
> > > > > Network Engineer/Citrix Admin
> > > > > Virtual Desktop Inc.
> > > > > Dallas, Texas
> > > > > Ph: (972) 960-6400=20
> > > > > Fax: (972) 960-6445=20
> > > > > email: mboggan@xxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > > > http://www.virtualdesktopinc.com=20
> > > > > _________________________________=20
> > > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Henry Sieff [mailto:hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:29 AM
> > > > To: Michael Boggan
> > > > Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > The first step is to contact whoever provided you with your
> > > IP address
> > > > space, which looks like SBC, and ask them to delegate
> > > authority of the
> > > > rDNS space, or in-addr.arpa space corresponding to your 
> > netblock to=20
> > > > you your name
> > > > servers:
> > > > dns1.vdesktop.net.
> > > > dns2.vdesktop.net.
> > > >=20
> > > > Then, you'll need to set up 230.173.216.in-addr.arpa rDNS 
> > zone on=20
> > > > those two ns's. I can give you a hand with that if you have
> > > > administrative control of
> > > > both of those name servers. I can also tell you what you need=20
> > > > to ask for if
> > > > you do not have administrative control.
> > > >=20
> > > > As someone else pointed out, this immediate problem could 
> > also be=20
> > > > caused by some discrepencies in the records for that domain,=20
> > > > although
> > > a properly
> > > > configured resolver should still be able to find the mx
> > > > record (provided its
> > > > cache of root name servers is current).
> > > >=20
> > > > Either way, rDNS entries are important, and everyone should
> > > have them
> > > > configured.
> > > >=20
> > > > So, I guess the big question is, who manages the NS's?
> > > >=20
> > > > Henry
> > > >=20
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Boggan [mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:09 AM
> > > > > To: 'Henry Sieff'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Ok thanks.  I am not very DNS savvy.  I know the basics
> > > and that's
> > > > > about it. Any idea how I do what  you are refering to 
> in windows
> > > > > 2000 dns?
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >=20
> > > > > > _________________________________
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Michael Boggan
> > > > > > Network Engineer/Citrix Admin
> > > > > > Virtual Desktop Inc.
> > > > > > Dallas, Texas
> > > > > > Ph: (972) 960-6400
> > > > > > Fax: (972) 960-6445=20
> > > > > > email: mboggan@xxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > > > > http://www.virtualdesktopinc.com=20
> > > > > > _________________________________=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Henry Sieff [mailto:hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:07 AM
> > > > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > I just checked both of your domains; for your mail 
> > server on each
> > > > > one you lack a rDNS ptr record. Many mail servers out 
> there are
> > > > > configured to just
> > > > > dump mail which comes from servers w/o a rDNS PTR. Fix it,=20
> > > > > and I'd wager the
> > > > > problem with that domain (and probably others you 
> don't know=20
> > > > > about) will go
> > > > > away.
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > 
> > 
> http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=3DPrairietitle.com
> > > > > 
> http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=3Dvdimail.com
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Henry
> > > > >=20
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Boggan [mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:51 AM
> > > > > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Well we have 2 different domains trying it.
> > > > Prairietitle.com and I
> > > > > > tried from my server which is vdimail.com
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > _________________________________
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > Michael Boggan
> > > > > > > Network Engineer/Citrix Admin
> > > > > > > Virtual Desktop Inc.
> > > > > > > Dallas, Texas
> > > > > > > Ph: (972) 960-6400
> > > > > > > Fax: (972) 960-6445
> > > > > > > email: mboggan@xxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > > > > > > http://www.virtualdesktopinc.com=20
> > > > > > > _________________________________=20
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Henry Sieff [mailto:hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:36 PM
> > > > > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: very wierd email problem
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Well, ns1.swbell.net has them:
> > > > > > =
> > http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=3Dhdtlaw.com&type=3DMX
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > and at your mail server, you are recursing to it:
> > > > > > 
> > http://www.menandmice.com/cgi-bin/DoDig?host=3Ddns1.vdesktop.net
> > > > > > .&domain=3Dhdtla
> > > > > > w.com&type=3DMX&recur=3Don
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > so I don't know. What is the domain that is having trouble
> > > > > sending to
> > > > > > hdtlaw.com?
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Michael Boggan [mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:49 PM
> > > > > > > To: 'THIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > > > > > Subject: [THIN] OT: very wierd email problem
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > Here goes.   I have a user sending an email to 
> > htdlaw.com. =20
> > > > > > > The recipient
> > > > > > > never recieves the email, but does recieve emails from
> > > > > > other people,
> > > > > > > including one i sent her from a hotmail account.  
> > When i do an
> > 
> > > > > > > nslookup it says no MX record exists.  I then check
> > > > > > dnsstuff.com and
> > > > > > > it says no MX record exists.  I know that is why we
> > > > can't send her
> > > > > > > mail, but how is she receiving other emails?  Anyone
> > > > ideas.  I am
> > > > > > > baffled.
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > _________________________________
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > Michael Boggan
> > > > > > > > Network Engineer/Citrix Admin
> > > > > > > > Virtual Desktop Inc.
> > > > > > > > Dallas, Texas
> > > > > > > > Ph: (972) 960-6400
> > > > > > > > Fax: (972) 960-6445
> > > > > > > > email: mboggan@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > <http://www.virtualdesktopinc.com>=20
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