[THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru internet
- From: "Braebaum, Neil" <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:44:29 +0100
Not that I don't understand your advantages compared to POP or IMAP...
But given the context of your reply (to Ryan, and his suggestion of publishing
a Citrix session, running Outlook) - they don't really apply when you consider
Ryan's suggestion.
True, you have the comparison with MAPI over HTTP compared with ICA - but ICA
should be completely acceptable - bearing in mind it's roots are in suitability
for low bandwidth - and as far as screen refreshes go, ICA (compared with other
protocols) excels at partial screen refreshes (given outlook as the
application).
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 28 August 2003 13:43
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru internet
MAPI over HTTP with E2K3 and Office 2003 would most likely be a lot
LESS bandwidth intensive than even a published Citrix session. You're simply
sending XML queriers (from what I understand) back and forth as necessary. No
screen refreshes required.
I'll also tell you why you want full "exchange thru the internet":
Global Address List (viewing, not just LDAP queriers)
Server side Public Folders
Server side Calendars
Server side Contacts
Just to name a few things that you don't have the ability to use with
POP or IMAP. Only available through a published Outlook for Citrix, or MAPI
over HTTP (new feature).
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryan Lambert
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:16 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru internet
I would simply publish the application through Citrix. That way
you get everything, and on a decent connection a lot less speed degredation.
What is the reason you want "Exchange over the Internet",
anyway? I mean, you can set up POP/SMTP with ports 110/25 open and that will be
fine. But Exchange featured mail is going to be a drag for you to support, in
my opinion.
-Ryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:58 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru internet
not that this is relevant to Citrix, but Exchange 2003 with
Outlook 11 (2003) offers MAPI over HTTP. I'm going to do some testing with it
tomorrow in fact. Need to find out if you can SSL encrypt it and if so, how.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Knightly
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru internet
outlook over the internet...are you smoking crack?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeanne Shotton
[mailto:jeanne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:06 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru internet
amen
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of M
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:04 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru
internet
Dare i mention the words Citrix Secure
Gateway ? i did think this was a Citrix forum :¬)
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Boggan
<mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:53
PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru
internet
yeah i changed the DS and IS ports to
5000 and 5001 respectively and had all this working using RPC on the 135
working. but had to close 135 when blaster came out. if you find a way to
change the 135 to somethign else, i'd really like to. i have many users wanting
the outlook over the internet to work again.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Sieff
[mailto:hsieff@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:07 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru
internet
You can change the endpoint itself (the
link I sent describes that process). The endpoint mapper is a different ball of
wax. If you did actually do that, then I am absolutely all ears, since this is
a perennially recurring topic on several security mailing lists I am on, and
the general consensus has always been: don't allow exchange access direct from
the internet because of all the nasties out there.
Anyways, let me know what you find.
-----Original Message-----
From: Magnus [mailto:magnus@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:29 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru
internet
If I recall correctly we did change the
RPC endpoint for it. I will have to double check my notes though (I could be
wrong)
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:20 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru
internet
Nope. You can change the ports exchange
uses, but not the RPC endpoint mapper port on 135.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;155831 details how to
change the ports exchange uses, but there is no way to change the RPC endpoint
mapper service port number. Keep in mind that the client still has to identify
which ports the exchange service is listening on, and that requires a service
which uses a port that the client knows about ahead of time, in this case, RPC
on 135.
-----Original Message-----
From: Magnus [mailto:magnus@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:02
AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru
internet
Actualy you change change the port to a
static port(by default it will dynamically assign the port once it gets
connected) even the TCP 135 port. There are a couple of MS KB's on it (sorry I
dont have the numbers) I ended up calling ms and I had it set up in about 20
minutes
Magnus
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henry Sieff
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:49
AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Exchange thru
internet
To use the full exchange server client,
you must open up the RPC endpoint mapper port (135). You can set which port
exchange actually ends up using, but 135 is used to initiate the process
whereby the client learns that port number.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boggan
[mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:41
AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] OT: Exchange thru
internet
I want to be able to hit my exchange
thru the internet but to do it it says that the RPC port 135 has to be opened.
Well I don't want to do that for obvious reasons. Is there a way to change
which port the RPC uses for exchange?
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