[THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies
- From: "Nick Smith" <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:14:22 +0100
Someone earlier suggested Rev drives. They are perfect for this sort of
environement if you can get round (b).
If not then look at some of the off-site storage mechanisms I suggested
earlier. If it's only 20gb back up incrementally to your systems
overnight, and then put it on tape during the day if you feel the need.
You get residual commercials, the client gets more reliable backup, they
don't have to worry about tape swaps.
SMEs *hate* tape. They hate it because it's relatively unreliable, and
needs monitoring. Software like Veritas and Arcserve are massively
unreliable, uncommunicative, and throw up huge amounts of complex error
messages for the SME administrator (Usually a secretary) to cope with.
Tape is relatively slow, and restoring files from it is difficult for
non-technicals.
Don't forget many SME's are not normally operating in clean server
rooms, with no dust. They have their servers balanced on boxes under
stairs, don't want to buy replacement tapes, and will usually still be
using the same tapes they bought several years ago. Hoping that they
will run test restores is ... optimistic. These companies are operating
in a different universe to many of the people on this list. 5k will
often be their annual IT spend.
Take away these problems from your small clients using Sonicwalls or
configurable software and you will be a hero forever for them.
Nick
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From: Luchette, Jon [mailto:JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 06 April 2006 13:18
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies
I feel the same way and we will probably make that recommendation.
There are two reasons that I think they want to avoid tapes:
a) they don't really understand the technology
b) they don't want the hassle of having to change out tapes all the
time. the datacenter is located at a remote facility/shared datacenter
that is not staffed.
If I can find a good solution for b) then I might be able to convince
them to go this way. Any suggestions?
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Jon Luchette
Emerson Hospital
Technology Specialist III
Work: 978-287-3369
Cell: 978-360-1379
jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:13 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies
A lot of people are under the impression that tapes are old technology.
The truth of the matter is tape is still one of the only real reliable
ways to backup large amounts of data. I would feel much safer with a
disk to tape backup solution over just trusting disks.
Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+
Network Manager
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Luchette, Jon
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:59 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies
we might make that recommendation but client has stated they would like
to stay away from tape for some reason. It is still early in the
discussions so I am limited as to understanding why they feel this
way...
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Jon Luchette
Emerson Hospital
Technology Specialist III
Work: 978-287-3369
Cell: 978-360-1379
jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:52 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies
If you're willing to spend up to 5K why not go LTO?
Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+
Network Manager
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:01 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies
You could look at the Sonicwall CDP range. It has some gaping flaws IMO,
but might suit.
Otherwise www.peersyncsoftware.com <http://www.peersyncsoftware.com/>
their product is fine for backup - synch less so.
Finally avail, which is similar to persync.
Nick
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From: Luchette, Jon [mailto:JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 05 April 2006 19:14
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies
Hello,
Anybody know of any good disk-based backup systems for a small company
(5 Windows Servers) Ideally I would like to keep it under $5k.
Thanks!
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Jon Luchette
Emerson Hospital
Technology Specialist III
Work: 978-287-3369
Cell: 978-360-1379
jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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