Give these same people any type of technology and you can expect the same issues. The two main issues I find with tapes are 1) people don't know how to use them or 2) they go cheap and buy a sub $1000 drive that is junk. Often people never test the tape drives to make sure they can restore and that is a disaster waiting to happen. Of course after the company data is lost no one ever says "I forgot to test the tape drive" no they say "the crap tape drive didn't work". Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Network Manager -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BOURHIS Laurent Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:30 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies Hi, Just remember having read an article on Sunbelt.com on the « The Tape Reliability Challenge ». Even if it's rather old, I thought it was interesting. Here's an extract : « Today, tape continues to be one of the most commonly used storage mediums for backup, archiving and remote site disaster recovery. In addition, the emergence of new compliance regulations has significantly raised the stakes in data protection for both large and small-to-medium customers. A Yankee Group and Sunbelt Software survey of 362 IT executives in March 2004 found 42 percent of respondents had been unable to recover data from tape in the last year as a result of tape unreliability. As a result, customers now rank tape reliability as a key buying criteria for tape cartridges. » Full article can be found here : http://www.wservernews.com/archives/w2knews-20040405.html Hope this helps, Laurent ________________________________ De : thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de Matthew Shrewsbury Envoyé : jeudi 6 avril 2006 14:13 À : thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Objet : [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies A lot of people are under the impression that tapes are old technology. The truth of the matter is tape is still one of the only real reliable ways to backup large amounts of data. I would feel much safer with a disk to tape backup solution over just trusting disks. Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Network Manager -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:59 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies we might make that recommendation but client has stated they would like to stay away from tape for some reason. It is still early in the discussions so I am limited as to understanding why they feel this way... _______________________________________________ Jon Luchette Emerson Hospital Technology Specialist III Work: 978-287-3369 Cell: 978-360-1379 jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:52 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies If you're willing to spend up to 5K why not go LTO? Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Network Manager -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Smith Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:01 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies You could look at the Sonicwall CDP range. It has some gaping flaws IMO, but might suit. Otherwise www.peersyncsoftware.com <http://www.peersyncsoftware.com/> their product is fine for backup - synch less so. Finally avail, which is similar to persync. Nick ________________________________ From: Luchette, Jon [mailto:JLuchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 05 April 2006 19:14 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] OT: Disk-Based Backups for Small Companies Hello, Anybody know of any good disk-based backup systems for a small company (5 Windows Servers) Ideally I would like to keep it under $5k. Thanks! _______________________________________________ Jon Luchette Emerson Hospital Technology Specialist III Work: 978-287-3369 Cell: 978-360-1379 jluchette@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________