[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

  • From: Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:46:32 -0700

It's not just about getting more users on per box... It's all about the user
experience.  Login times, Application load time,  Application responsiveness
(for those apps that read/write alot of temp data), etc.

Joe


On 1/25/06, Berny Stapleton <berny.stapleton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Yes, RAID 0 is a LOT better performance. I guess it just comes down to the
> question of whether you need it or not.
>
> In my scenarios previously disk access hasn't been the bottleneck, we have
> had to run gig to the servers before as network has been a bottleneck on
> applications that are dependent on SQL. I have also seen the 4 Gig memory
> limit being a bottleneck on how many users we can get on the servers.
>
> Yes, RAID 0 can give you a lot better performance, but at the same time, I
> haven't come across the issue yet where local disk has been the performance
> bottleneck of getting more users per server.
>
> Berny
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Rusty Yates
> *Sent:* 25 January 2006 14:24
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
>
>
>  This brings up another question.  Does RAID 0 so better performance than
> just a stand alone HD configuration?
>
> Rusty
>
>
> On 1/24/06, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > The IBM HS20 and HP BL35p (SAS) seems to be lacking in the Raid
> > Controller cache arena as well... Enough so, that one customer is
> > considering abandoning RAID 1 in favor of a RAID 0 configuration...  Initial
> > benchmarks are showing a HUGE improvement in Read, Writes, and overall
> > performance.  But of course, you loose that redundancy.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On 1/24/06, Rusty Yates <rusty27@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just heard back from our outside sales from Dell and was told that one
> > > customer did a major test with Citrix and the Dell 1855 Blades and found
> > > that Citrix ran 30% slower due to no enough cache on the Raid Controller 
> > > in
> > > their blades.  Anyway the outside sales guy is recommending us to go with
> > > the 1850 1u servers instead which basically defects the purpose of going 
> > > to
> > > blades (ex: density, wiring, power, etc......).    Never thought I would
> > > actually hear a sales rep recommend against their own product.
> > >
> > > Anyway, just thought I would pass this along.
> > >
> > > Rusty
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 1/24/06, Rusty Yates <rusty27@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I appreciate all the information from everyone.  From all the
> > > > research that we've done we are hoping to go with IBM Servers and 
> > > > Blades but
> > > > if the pricing isn't close we will most likely choose Dell.  We 
> > > > understand
> > > > IBM is going to have better management, denisty, etc and if money 
> > > > wasn't a
> > > > factor IBM would be our #1 choice.  But on the flip side with Dell, we 
> > > > are a
> > > > Dell shop, the Dell pricing is better, and Dell's support has been 
> > > > great.
> > > >
> > > > I will say I'm very disappointed that no one brought up Hitachi's
> > > > Blade Servers or even Silicon Blade Servers.   :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for all the information and laughs!
> > > >
> > > > Rusty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  On 1/21/06, Rusty Yates <rusty27@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to know if anyone on this board has had any good or
> > > > > bad experience with the Dell PowerEdge 1855 Blade Servers.  We are 
> > > > > currently
> > > > > taking a hard look at using the Dell Blades for our Citrix Servers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > >
> > > > > Rusty
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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