Wow thanks so much for that explanation! That is really helpful and I never really understood the classes but now that does make a lot of sense. Most helpful, thanks! Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Senior Network Administrator -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:09 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [THIN] OT: Color printing that defaults to b/w Hi Matthew, What I normally do is create a second queue that's configured to print black only and then set permissions on the color queue so that only people who need to print colour have access. Configuring a queue to print black only is a simple as using a comparable (in terms of bins etc) black only print driver for the black/white queue, something like an HP LaserJet 4200 would probably work fine for you. A slightly more fun way to do the same thing is to alter the existing color drivers to print only in black. That way you have a printer-specific black-only driver that can be used anywhere. Anyway, a bit of background. There are 3 printer driver classes used on Windows 2000 and later. The first class is basically a traditional driver written by the manfacturer that does everything itself. Just about every bad driver you've ever used falls into this category. There is really no reason for any manufacturer to use this type of driver anymore. The second class is Unidriver-based printer drivers. The unidriver was intrduced by Microsoft (in win2k) to make the job of creating and modifying safe printer drivers easier. It consists of a printer definition file (GPD extension) that is a text file that defines everything the printer can do. There may be additional GPD files as include files and the driver may also include custom DLLs to handle bi-directional printer comms, stapling etc. The first time you use a unidriver-based print driver, the GPD file is compiled to a binary file (.BUD extension) which is used by the spooler subsystem. It's worth noting that whenever the .ppd file (or ANY of the include .ppd files) are changed, the compile process happens again. That's why its a good isea to give users write access to the spool\drivers\w32x86\3 directory, otherwise the compile only happens for admins, and the driver won't work 'til an admin tries to print. Anyway, the 5500dn PCL6 driver is a uni-driver but interestingly enough the PCL5 driver isn't. This is one case where PCL6 is actually better. The PCL6 driver uses hpc55006.gpd and the color section is shown below: *Feature: ColorMode { *rcNameID: =COLOR_PRINTING_MODE_DISPLAY *%IDS_COLOR_PRINTING_MODE *DefaultOption: 24bpp *HelpIndex: 12024 *Option: Mono { *rcNameID: =MONO_DISPLAY *%IDS_MONOCHROME *DevNumOfPlanes: 1 *DevBPP: 24 *DrvBPP: 24 *Color? : FALSE *PaletteSize: 1 *PaletteProgrammable? : TRUE *Command: CmdDefinePaletteEntry { *Cmd: "" } } *Option: 24bpp { *rcNameID: =24BPP_DISPLAY *DevNumOfPlanes: 1 *DevBPP: 24 *DrvBPP: 24 *PaletteSize: 256 *PaletteProgrammable? : TRUE *Command: CmdDefinePaletteEntry { *Cmd: "" } } } So if you wanted, you could modify the .gpd file to disable the color capabilities. The last class is postscript drivers. These used a unidriver like mechanism even in NT 4. Postscript printer characteristics are defined in a printer-specific PPD file that's a text file with high level printer driver capability code that will get compiled into a BPD file which is used to produce the print output. There is a sub-class of Adobe postscript drivers, but these really fit in the first class of drivers. I've had some real fun with some of Xerox's early Adobe postscript drivers, so putting them into the dud class isn't really all that cruel. If we look at the 5500dn again, the postscript driver uses hpc5500s.ppd, which has a section that defines the basic printer characteristics, eg *% --------------------------------- *% Basic Device Capabilities *% --------------------------------- *LanguageLevel: "3" *Throughput: "22" *FileSystem: False *ColorDevice: True *DefaultColorSpace: CMY *TTRasterizer: Type42 *?TTRasterizer: " So by changing the entry "*ColorDevice: True" to "*ColorDevice: False", you've just created a driver for a a black only printer. The correct way to use the dumbed-down driver is to create an inf file to install the renamed, modified gpd or ppd file. You need to rename the INF file, and edit the INF file to change the driver name in the [Strings] section and change the name of the gpd/ppd file. You now use the modified driver anywhere. I'd probably advise you to stick with the 4200 drivers though ;-) regards, Ulrich Mack Volante Systems ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Matthew Shrewsbury Sent: Thu 22/12/2005 11:17 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] OT: Color printing that defaults to b/w Is there a way that I could default a print driver to B/W? If the user wants to print color they would have to go in and make the selection of printing in color. We have a number of people printing to a HP LaserJet 5500DN and the consumables are running around $15,000 per year. I've observed that most people printing to it really don't need to print in color but they are to lazy to select another printer or select B/W. Since there is no way to track each users printing they have no reason to try and reduce the amount printed in color. Sorry for the off topic post but someone on here normally knows the answer. Thank you for any suggestions! Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+ Senior Network Administrator ######################################################################## ############# This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received it in error please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this e-mail and any attachments. 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