Very good answer. Jumping in here, we have used McAfee for what seems like forever. We have always suspected that AV was one of the culprits stopping us from getting more users on a server. We had some issues with McAfee and had to remove it from a server to do some troubleshooting. A server that struggled to support 60 users suddenly was able to handle 90. That seemed strange to us so we tried it with a different server and saw similar results. This was still in the NT4 world though and we haven not tried that test on Windows2003. That is coming. We have had strange cluster issues that we have been working on with Microsoft for months. They keep running out of Page Pool memory. Recently we found that we had the exact same cluster issue with a brand new cluster with very little activity on it running the latest and greatest from McAfee (8.x). We opened another case with McAfee last night and they told us this issue is resolved in Patch 10 and we applied it last night. So, now we're watching and monitoring everything to see if the patch makes any difference. If not, I am comfortable looking for other solutions since we gave this one years to get resolved. I have heard great things about Trend and with a recent acquisition we now have access to it for testing. The first place I intend to try it is on a Citrix server to see if there is any difference in resource utilization. What seems to be true is not every product works perfectly for everyone. While many will jump in and say McAfee has been perfect for them, just as many will probably say it was a disaster. It comes down to what works best for your environment since you are ultimately responsible for it. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:35 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again Good answer. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Raffensberger, Stephen D Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:27 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again I just remove it from HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Run. Steve Raffensberger Sovereign Bank Mail Stop 10-411-NS1 1125 Berkshire Blvd. Wyomissing, PA 19610 Email: sraffens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: Ruben Spruijt [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ruben Spruijt Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:58 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again Hi, How do you handle the updaterUI.exe that will start for each user on the terminal server. One 'workaround' is the remove the updaterUI.exe .. What are you doing for this file ?. with regards, Ruben _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Dogers Sent: Thu 8/11/2005 11:04 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again On 10/08/05, Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I've never seen Trend's enterprise solution, but have seen parts of > McAfee's. I know Trend seems to be the big winner for Citrix environments, > which is a check for the corner of Trend. I'm looking for other input as to > why I might want to invest more time trying out Trend or McAfee, or > considering someone else's product. Never tried Trend, we've always used McAfee and they've been fine since, well, forever! It meets all your requirements, Groupshield works fine for virus scanning, but we don't use its antispam side of things.. We use Protection Pilot instead of the ePolicy Orchestrator, as we're a small shop, and it does all the same things, just easier :) I know some people like Sophos too, but never had a look at that either, could be something else for you to look at. Andrew ******************************************************** New Site from The Kenzig Group VistaPop.com! Windows Vista Links, Subscribe to Vista Discussion List at Freelists.org and more! 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