[THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again

LDS, I have also McAfee 7.1 running on my Citrix servers. I can only
find one copy of the app 'McAfeeUpdaterUI' running at that is in the
reg path you specified. Nothing exists in HKCU.



On 8/11/05, Pardee, Michael P. <MPardee@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> We found that that sucker attaches itself to a user somehow and will follow
> them server to server, running multiple instances of it for them.  Those are
> the users that usually call in with performance issues.  I'll check, but I
> think we either renamed it or changed the permissions on it so regular users
> could not run it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:27 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again
> 
> I run McAfee VirusScan 7.1 on my TS and while I have had no noticable
> problems, this thread prompted me to check my connections and I see that
> each user is in fact running updaterui.exe.  I do not see the entry in
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CV\Run.
> 
> Any other suggestions on how to eliminate this process for each user?
> 
> On 8/11/05, Pardee, Michael P. <MPardee@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Very good answer.  Jumping in here, we have used McAfee for what seems
> > like forever.
> >
> > We have always suspected that AV was one of the culprits stopping us
> > from getting more users on a server.  We had some issues with McAfee
> > and had to remove it from a server to do some troubleshooting.  A
> > server that struggled to support 60 users suddenly was able to handle
> > 90.  That seemed strange to us so we tried it with a different server
> > and saw similar results.  This was still in the NT4 world though and
> > we haven not tried that test on Windows2003.  That is coming.
> >
> > We have had strange cluster issues that we have been working on with
> > Microsoft for months.  They keep running out of Page Pool memory.
> > Recently we found that we had the exact same cluster issue with a
> > brand new cluster with very little activity on it running the latest
> > and greatest from McAfee (8.x).  We opened another case with McAfee
> > last night and they told us this issue is resolved in Patch 10 and we
> applied it last night.
> >
> > So, now we're watching and monitoring everything to see if the patch
> > makes any difference.  If not, I am comfortable looking for other
> > solutions since we gave this one years to get resolved.  I have heard
> > great things about Trend and with a recent acquisition we now have access
> to it for testing.
> > The first place I intend to try it is on a Citrix server to see if
> > there is any difference in resource utilization.
> >
> > What seems to be true is not every product works perfectly for everyone.
> > While many will jump in and say McAfee has been perfect for them, just
> > as many will probably say it was a disaster.  It comes down to what
> > works best for your environment since you are ultimately responsible for
> it.
> > ________________________________
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:35 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again
> >
> >
> > Good answer.
> > ________________________________
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Raffensberger, Stephen D
> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:27 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just remove it from HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Run.
> >
> >
> > Steve Raffensberger
> >
> > Sovereign Bank
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> > Wyomissing, PA 19610
> > Email: sraffens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Ruben Spruijt [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Ruben Spruijt
> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:58 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How do you handle the updaterUI.exe that will start for each user on
> > the terminal server.
> >
> >
> > One 'workaround' is the remove the updaterUI.exe ..
> >
> >
> > What are you doing for this file ?.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > with regards,
> >
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Dogers
> > Sent: Thu 8/11/2005 11:04 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: A/V for enterprise environments - again
> >
> >
> > On 10/08/05, Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > I've never seen Trend's enterprise solution, but have seen parts of
> > > McAfee's.  I know Trend seems to be the big winner for Citrix
> > environments,
> > > which is a check for the corner of Trend.  I'm looking for other
> > > input as
> > to
> > > why I might want to invest more time trying out Trend or McAfee, or
> > > considering someone else's product.
> >
> > Never tried Trend, we've always used McAfee and they've been fine
> > since, well, forever!
> >
> > It meets all your requirements, Groupshield works fine for virus
> > scanning, but we don't use its antispam side of things.. We use
> > Protection Pilot instead of the ePolicy Orchestrator, as we're a small
> > shop, and it does all the same things, just easier :)
> >
> > I know some people like Sophos too, but never had a look at that
> > either, could be something else for you to look at.
> >
> > Andrew
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