[THIN] Re: OST Files

I assume a UMTS PC Card is a cellular based internet access card?  If
so, that's what you should do IMO.  My company is getting to the point
that if you want access to your stuff, you need to get online.  If that
means you buy, or your office buys a cellular internet card and pays the
$80/mo for unlimited data, so be it.  The world is becoming an every
increasing connected place, and because of new regulations in the US
(I'm unfamiliar with europe) , Privacy concerns are becoming EXTREMELY
hot topics, and if someone has data on a remote laptop that you can't
easily reposses if they leave the company, you are liable for the
privacy of that data.  Making them get online and use a remote
environment such as Citrix removes part of that equation.
 

        -----Original Message-----
        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mario Nicoletatos
        Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:35 AM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: OST Files
        
        
        Thanks guys for the opinions
         
        Let me explain what Im up against
        I work for a Broadband Company who does not really understand
Citrix
        Server Farm in the Netherlands.......affiliates around Europe
        So everytime they accuire a company they go and  throw out all
their hardware and replace it all new, put in exhange server,sms etc
        I have suggested we keave there local infurstructure intact and
give them our services over Citrix.
        The response was what will users do if they were working on a
train using outlook (no internet connection).........how will they syn
back to there mailbox (there will be no local Exchange server, only via
Citrix which will be based in the Netherlands)
        (I have a very small group who dont like Citrix, hence the
painful questions)
         
        I said give the users UMTS PCIMA cards and there is no issue
         
         
        Thanks to your comment I have a few things to check out with the
exchange guys
         
         

        Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

                I only have a small number of mobile uses on Citrix.
Prior to this, they used Outlook 2003 with RPC over HTTP (as I use for
every fat client outside my corporate office).  RPC over HTTP, when
combined with cached mode, is almost as good, if not better at times,
then using Citrix (in my opinion).  With cached mode, there is no delay
in opening e-mails, but without it, there is delay based on bandwith.
Cached mode means your e-mail is delayed slightly for incoming/outgoing,
but we're talking < 1 minute even in the worst case scenarios from my
experience.
                 
                Now, having said that, I tell my mobile uses that use
Citrix to never use their local Outlook.  Ok, so there are a few times
we tell them they might want to use it, primarily if they are on an
airplane, or need to lookup info.  This is still an issue, because, if
they never open it to let their cache update, the info they may be
looking for is not there.  
                 
                In reality, of the few mobile users I have, only 1 or 2
of them would even use their laptop in an offline mode for Outlook.
Those 1 or 2 people are smart enough to understand that they need to let
their local Outlook update the cache, and if they compose mail in it
when offline, they need to let it send that mail when they get a
connection again.
                 
                What's my point?  I think you'll find that if you got
the straight and narrow out of your mobile users, you'll find 99% of
them don't use their e-mail when they don't have an internet connection,
thus they don't take advantage of an offline/cached mode in the first
place, and it's not an issue. 
                 

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russell Robertson
                        Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 5:38 PM
                        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [THIN] Re: OST Files
                        
                        
                        Hhhmmm, I've tried a couple of times to answer
this question and I'm not sure hat you want to do. 
                         
                        If your mobile user is offline, they are
offline. If they use Outlook locally it's going to wait till there is a
connection. If you are remote and get a connection, local Outlook can
only connect via rpc over http or using functionality via MSAM. This
will get your local Outlook connected to remote Exchange.
                         
                        But if you get connectivity, performance is
always going to be better (IMHO) using Citrix to connect.
                         
                        Do this help/make sense?
                         
                        Cheers
                         
                        Russell
                        Russell Robertson
                        Skibo Technologies
                        E: russell.robertson@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:russell.robertson@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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                        Microsoft Certified Partners
                        Citrix Solutions Advisers
                        Northern Business Star Awards Finalists 2005 


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                        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mario Nicoletatos
                        Sent: 29 October 2005 19:26
                        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [THIN] OST Files
                        
                        

                        I would appreciate some opinions on how you all
deliver locally installed outlook(mobile users) syncing back to Citrix
based mail

                         

                         

                        Basically if a mobile users works offline how
will the user be able to Syn there unsent mail back to the exchange
server

                        There will be no local exchange server

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        Thnxs in advance

                         

                         

                        
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