[THIN] Re: New Virtual Server Discussion List: Virtualize

  • From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:07:17 -0600

Uh, not really. The "benefits" That really need a SAN are the VMotion
capabilities. Not to say that I don't use a SAN in a number of ESX
implementations BUT we have done it without it to, ESX rocks GSX and VS
2005 in performance. 

 

Ron Oglesby

Senior Technical Architect

Microsoft MVP, Windows Server 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kenzig kenzig.com [mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Virtual Server Discussion List: Virtualize

 

There was a good article at infoworld last month with the basics.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/11/05/45FEvirtual_1.html

 

You need a San for the most part if you want to reap the benefits of
ESX.


Here is a good one by Paul Thurrot also

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/43990/43990.html

 

And while this is an older article it is pretty good also.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,10403,00.asp

 

One cool thing about ESX that MS does not have is there is a piece you
can get that you can move live VM's over to another Server running it in
real time if you need to take the physical hardware down and never miss
a beat. 

 

Once I get the new website together... virtualize-it.com I will have all
these links in place and find all I can. 

 

It is interesting to note a search on google of VMware versus Virtual
Server brings up posts from this list.  I think we are probably some of
the key people on the web discussing it. 

 

Jim

 

 


Dirk  wrote:

        
        I'm aware that the ESX to VS2005 comparison is not really valid
but
        since we are recommending ESX we are being asked to provide a
written
        response as to why VS2005 is not the recommendation. I was just
hoping
        to have something to start with.
        
        Dirk Blose, MCSE, CCA
        Lead Technical Analyst
        (919) 765-4791
        dirk.blose@xxxxxxxxxx
        
        >>> lynch00@xxxxxxx 12/15/04 10:51 AM >>>
        
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        There are some documents out there comparing GSX to VS2005, and
        Workstation to VPC2005. You cannot compare ESX to any MS
product, as
        of right now.
        
        You can contact your local VMware Partner, and they can get you
that
        documentation.
        
        Chris 
        > 
        > Speaking of VM stuff, anyone know of a good comparison of 
        > Esx, GSX, and Virtual Server 2005? Our engineering team is >
100% behind ESX but certain managers want to see some kind of 
        > comparison and aving somethign to start with is easier than 
        > writing it all myself.
        > 
        > Thanks.
        > 
        > Dirk Blose, MCSE, CCA
        > Lead Technical Analyst
        > (919) 765-4791
        >  
        > 
        > 8:08 AM >>>
        > Hi Folks,
        > I have set up a new discussion list for Virtual Server
Products. 
        > 
        > This list is to discuss Virtual Server and workstation 
        > products like VMWare and Microsoft Virtual PC and Virtual 
        > Server 2005. 
        > 
        > Join on up and lets get started at:
        > 
        > //www.freelists.org/list/virtualize 
        > 
        > I am also working on a new website called Virtualize-it.com 
        > that will be up in the next few days to host information and 
        > archives for the list. 
        > 
        > Regards,
        > Jim Kenzig
        > http://thin.net 
        > http://www.thinwiki.com 
        > ; 
        > 

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