I would strongly advise using procexp from sysinternals.... a) get a user to run up app b) select the profiling option and then start up a new instance of the app the profiler which show you exactly which functions are being called successfully and which are not! it will do two things for you 1. show a log of it starting up and exactly where it bombs and on which function 2. it will show you which dll functions etc that it is binding to early or late, and it will show you any bindings that are in error or that couldnt be completed.. if you dont know the util, it just takes a little bit of effort which is well worth the investment... Brian :o) -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Rogers [mailto:Andrew.Rogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 19 August 2003 13:52 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: NT4+Citrix Development Question The calls I don't actually know - in the logfile the program creates, there's various function looking names, but I suspect they're functions in the program.. Its a commercial program so they may or may not let me know, but it can't hurt to ask, I'll get back to you! Tim - it does seem odd that theyve suddenly hit this.. they are working on getting around it (that company has the best support ive come across, ever, in any industry!) so it's just a matter of time. I think theyre more hinting at the amount of calls theyre making, along with memory accesses. Chances are I'll never find out 100% what was doing it, but I'm sure they will :) Andrew --o-- >>> Brian.Lilley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 19/08/03 09:44:37 >>> Andrew, what kind of calls fail?? ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor: RES PowerFuse, The Management Framework for Windows Eliminate Multiple Tools, Multiple Support Channels and Multiple Costs Manage, Control, and Secure an Entire Windows environment with Ease, including Real-time Reporting and Documenting Components Validate a Meaningful ROI on All of your IT Investments with RES PowerFuse. http://www.respowerfuse.com/ ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm *********************************************************************************** EDF Energy plc internet e-mail disclaimer This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail from your system. This e-mail has been scanned for malicious content but the internet is inherently insecure and EDF Energy plc cannot accept any liability for the integrity of this message or its attachments. No employee or agent of EDF Energy plc or any related company is authorised to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of EDF Energy plc or any related company by e-mail. All e-mails sent and received by EDF Energy plc are monitored to ensure compliance with the company's information security policy. *********************************************************************************** ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor: RES PowerFuse, The Management Framework for Windows Eliminate Multiple Tools, Multiple Support Channels and Multiple Costs Manage, Control, and Secure an Entire Windows environment with Ease, including Real-time Reporting and Documenting Components Validate a Meaningful ROI on All of your IT Investments with RES PowerFuse. http://www.respowerfuse.com/ ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm