[THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix

  • From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 10:47:35 -0800

At this point RDP is not very usable over the Internet (some people are 
creative to switch RDP port to 80, but that does not often work with some 
firewalls). If Microsoft adds reverse proxy capabilities to RDP (like Citrix 
CSG) we will see more Companies considering RDP at least for small scale 
Internet related deployments.

ALEX



>From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix
>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 11:09:37 -0600
>
>
>Rick, recheck your stats. You can get LB now with regular server. Its
>just the session directory that is only used by Enterprise.
>
>Fun huh. Of course their load balancing blows....
>
>
>Ron Oglesby
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:30 PM
>To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix
>
>
>Hi,
>
>Windows server 2003 is going to hurt Citrix at the low end.=20
>
>The RDP client capabilities are right up there with the ICA client, with
>the exception of the high latency capabilities. Virtual cahannels, the
>lot. No published apps (yet), no direct nfuse equivalent (yet) without
>using an third party product (at extra cost).
>
>Provided you buy the Server 2003 Enterprise edition (costs extra), you
>can have load balancing into a farm, together with reconnection to a
>disconnected session on the farm etc.
>
>However the session directory (compare to ICA master browser) has no
>redundancy (use dedicated session directory).
>
>Will it displace Citrix in the corporate area. Probably not if Citrix
>keep up their value-add.
>
>Is it a much better platform for Metaframe? Absolutely. Per-user file
>associations, application security that works, ban kernel-mode printer
>drivers etc.
>
>Regards,
>
>Rick
>
>Ulrich Mack
>rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Volante Systems
>18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
>Queensland Australia
>tel +61 7 32467704
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Snyder [mailto:steven_snyder@xxxxxxxxx]=20
>Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 9:06 AM
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix
>
>
>
>Terminal Services in Windows Server 2003 (formerly
>called .NET server, hence the source of some confusion
>with the .NET web-based apps framework), will provide
>a lot of functionality currently only provided by ICA
>- client drive mapping, client serial port mapping,
>sound mapping, 24-bit color, higher resolutions, etc.
>(just review all of the currently useless options in
>the WinXP RDP client), as well as supporting some
>non-Windows clients.
>
>In addition, you can load-balance terminals servers. A
>really cool feature is if a session gets disconnected,
>it can reconnect to the same session but on a
>different server (courtesy of Session Directory).
>
>It appears, however, that it will not have any
>equivalents to all of the neat Enterprise Management
>tools that you get with XPe.
>
>So for a company not needing enterprise management
>tools, ICA won't offer much advantage over RDP - which
>is why Citrix has been lately putting so much emphasis
>on their other value-adding products like CSG and NFue
>Elite.
>
>Here's a link to Server 2003 Terminal Services
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/terminalservices
>/def
>ault.mspx
>
>HTH
>
> > I have people here beginning to discuss .NET quite
> > heavily and how we won't
> > need Citrix, once we go to .NET web based apps.,
> > etc.
> >=20
> > I have heard people talk about how Citrix will
> > compliment those apps.  Any
> > input?
>
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