If you like that wait till you see the next book :-) Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 312.961.2380 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =20 -----Original Message----- From: TheThin [mailto:TheThin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:04 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix Great info. Thanks Ron, this is the best synopsis I've seen of what really matters in a TS environment. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20 Posted At: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:02 AM Posted To: TheThin Conversation: [THIN] .NET and Citrix Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix Lets talk about a few things here. I don't know if anyone else really has it running but I have it (RC2) in two clients using it both as an MS only env, and as a MetaFrame platform.=3D3D20 Both locations are using it for some pre-prod stuff right now but there are some users using it. Limitations and or problems: 1st problem that hits everyone is lack of published app support. Nothing like it, it pretty much operates as it does now. 2- Licensing model is cool I like that Named user or per device (as it is now) 3- XP pro clients issued after the release date of 2003 Server will no longer have a terminal server cal built in. You have to buy it. (Typical MS pain) 4- MS Load Balancing, Coming on all version now. Only problem is that it is MS load balancing. It still does not do what a terminal server needs and look at current number of users logged on or at metrics that really matter to a Terminal Server. Of course MS LB'ing is also limited to 32 nodes MAX, and performance starts to go down above 20 5- If you use a Third Party load Balancer it gets better but still doesn't Match Citrix. 6- The session directory that is used for reconnecting clients to disconnected sessions IS cool. But it has two problems. 1- LB'ing routes users any where it feels like. Once the user is establishing a connect to a server the session directory is checked. IF they have an open session then the user basically cut off from that server and then a new RDP session is established with the original server. Of course this only happens after the LOGON is done on the first server since it needs your username and password...... Kinda Clunky if you ask me. The second problem with this is that you have to have Enterprise to use it. Standard server will not use the session directory but can host it for the farm. 8- The RDP client is basically the same one that comes with XP clients now, and the TSAC has changed very little, Of course with the RDP client you can save RDP files (if you look at them they look kinda like ICA files). The problem here is that the Active X control used by the TSAC wont use an RDP file. I had this wild idea of building RDP files and creating links to them the way we used to with ICA files. Still working on this a bit now. Ron =3D3D20 Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect =3D3D20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 312.961.2380 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Schneider, Chad M. [mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:11 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] .NET and Citrix I need some help. I have people here beginning to discuss .NET quite heavily and how we won't need Citrix, once we go to .NET web based apps., etc. I have heard people talk about how Citrix will compliment those apps. Any input? Chad M. 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