The pattern of usage will be different, plus the effects of link overload wilbe different. I think you can probably squeeze more citrix users on the same link without a noticeable effect, but I think the impact when you step over the line will be greater on the citrix users. Henry > -----Original Message----- > From: Schneider, Chad M. [mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:21 AM > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix > > > > But in all fairness, from a bandwidth standpoint, and such, > running them > through Citrix would still be more efficient, I would think. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:17 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix > > > > Oh this is true. Web serviced applications WILL in the future, be the > bomb. Of course I have heard that for 4 years now. > > And I still see DOS Apps on terminal services and of course > how many of > these app vendors (besides MS) are really going to move everything web > based and how soon? > > Ron Oglesby > Senior Technical Architect > =20 > RapidApp > Office 312.372.7188 > Mobile 312.961.2380 > email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx > =20 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Schneider, Chad M. [mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:08 AM > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix > > > > Good information, but I have people looking at it more from, > "once we go > web-services, there will be no need for Citrix, everything will be web > based." > > Rephrase, Ron, that is GREAT info. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:02 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: .NET and Citrix > > > > Lets talk about a few things here. I don't know if anyone else really > has it running but I have it (RC2) in two clients using it > both as an MS > only env, and as a MetaFrame platform.=3D20 > > Both locations are using it for some pre-prod stuff right now > but there > are some users using it. Limitations and or problems: > > 1st problem that hits everyone is lack of published app > support. Nothing > like it, it pretty much operates as it does now. > > 2- Licensing model is cool I like that Named user or per device (as it > is now) > > 3- XP pro clients issued after the release date of 2003 Server will no > longer have a terminal server cal built in. You have to buy > it. (Typical > MS pain) > > 4- MS Load Balancing, Coming on all version now. Only problem > is that it > is MS load balancing. It still does not do what a terminal > server needs > and look at current number of users logged on or at metrics > that really > matter to a Terminal Server. > > Of course MS LB'ing is also limited to 32 nodes MAX, and performance > starts to go down above 20 > > 5- If you use a Third Party load Balancer it gets better but still > doesn't Match Citrix. > > 6- The session directory that is used for reconnecting clients to > disconnected sessions IS cool. But it has two problems. 1- > LB'ing routes > users any where it feels like. Once the user is establishing a connect > to a server the session directory is checked. IF they have an open > session then the user basically cut off from that server and > then a new > RDP session is established with the original server. Of > course this only > happens after the LOGON is done on the first server since it > needs your > username and password...... Kinda Clunky if you ask me. The second > problem with this is that you have to have Enterprise to use it. > Standard server will not use the session directory but can host it for > the farm. > > 8- The RDP client is basically the same one that comes with XP clients > now, and the TSAC has changed very little, Of course with the > RDP client > you can save RDP files (if you look at them they look kinda like ICA > files). The problem here is that the Active X control used by the TSAC > wont use an RDP file. I had this wild idea of building RDP files and > creating links to them the way we used to with ICA files. > Still working > on this a bit now. > > Ron > =3D20 > > > > Ron Oglesby > Senior Technical Architect > =3D20 > RapidApp > Office 312.372.7188 > Mobile 312.961.2380 > email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx > =3D20 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Schneider, Chad M. [mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx]=3D20 > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:11 PM > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: [THIN] .NET and Citrix > > > > I need some help. > > I have people here beginning to discuss .NET quite heavily and how we > won't need Citrix, once we go to .NET web based apps., etc. > > I have heard people talk about how Citrix will compliment those apps. > Any input? > > Chad M. 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