Not sure what Citrix is smoking if they claim that MFPS 4.0 will end siloing. I agree that AIE, RTO and the Aurema technology will do wonder for minimizing the need to this, but for some organization I do not see this happening. A few examples as to why siloing would still be required: Volatile application Different Maintenance Procedures/Processes for different applications Security requirements (This can cover a wide range) Different OS Patch level requirements (isolate to minimize risks) Project/Department directive (People don't like to share. The "it's my server" attitude. Or "I paid for it") Separation of duties (The person supporting financial apps doesn't need access to clinical apps) Vendor supported solutions Different Service Level Agreements for different set of applications Antiquated licensing schemes dreamed up by vendors I'm sure there are many others that I haven't mentioned. Well, in saying that... I would have to say that I think is going in the right direction with MFPS 4.0. Let's hope it lives up to the hype and doesn't end up like Installation Manager or the Universal Print Driver. Joe -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Hathaway Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:43 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple apps using the same HKLM with different values... If not potentially MPS 4.0 . . . When it's released, assuming you're needing to do this in a terminal services environment. http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=262 http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=261 Application Isolation Environments This technology, abbreviated "AIE," lets you install side-by-side applications into their own "isolation environments" on a single MetaFrame server. Each application's registry keys, files, DLLs, objects, etc. are written to a special subfolder. Citrix engineers in the tech lab showed us how you could install Access 97 and Access 2000 together on the same server, each within its own isolation environment. You can also publish applications so that they run with specific AIEs. Citrix claims that this AIE technology coupled with the performance technology from Aurema and RTO will mean the end of siloing. This technology is somewhat similar to Softricity's, although there are several major differences. HTH J -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff.Pitsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:31 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Multiple apps using the same HKLM with different values... Softricity is probably the product your looking for. Jeff Pitsch -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Beekmans Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:19 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Multiple apps using the same HKLM with different values... Hi list, somehow I seem to get back to this list, must be a good sign.... Í've read something about being able to run mutliple versions of an application that use the same HLKM registry setting. Somehow it was done by virutalizing the enviroment etc etc, don't know excactly how it was done .....that's what I'm trying to find out. Can anyone help me and maybe remember which product or tool I'm refering to...??? What I'm trying to do is this (in short) program files\app version 10 --> uses HKLM\software\app program files\app version 11 --> uses HKLM\software\app normally this can't be done, but somewhere in the last weeks someone posted a message about this.... any help is appreciated. 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