[THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....

Man, I've been saying this for awhile now and I'm working on an article that 
details why I believe it but SoftGrid is going to be owned by Microsoft by the 
end of 2006.  I feel it in my bones.  Microsoft needs them.  They need a 
solution that can take SMS over the top; they need a solution that will get 
them into the virtualization market in a big way.   Microsoft can do two things 
with it.

 

1)       Add it to SMS.  They will then kill Altiris and Tarpon

2)       Add it to Longhorn and Vista.  They could give it away as a feature to 
Longhorn and Vista and as a value prop to upgrade...  Now, I would upgrade for 
truly virtualized apps.  

 

If they did this then I could use TS 2007 with SoftGrid/SMS to manage my entire 
app base, everywhere!   If I'm remote I use TS, if I'm local I use my 
workstation and then all apps are deployment and monitored through SMS / MOM.   
That brings us to MOM/SMS integration, which is planned...    Not to mention 
with this I have one support contract, from Microsoft. 

 

So, that being said, mark my words... Microsoft SoftGrid coming soon.   

 

 

So, what about Citrix?   Microsoft SSL VPN vs. CAG, Tarpon vs. Microsoft, 
MetaFrame vs. Microsoft... That is not good or Citrix, no matter what.  I think 
the Citrix channel is huge and for the most part I think that the Citrix 
channel is blind to anything but Citrix but even with them I think Citrix will 
have a hard time... They will become Oracle, a big boy that is bought because 
you need to buy it...  Do you buy Oracle because you want to?  No, you buy it 
because you have no choice... 

 

Oh, let's not forget the Citrix ecosystem... With the Reflectent purchase 
Citrix just made enemies of about 5 different companies, with the UPD III they 
made enemies of about 3 to 4 companies and the others are scared that Citrix 
will buy something and then that hurts them where they live.  So, these ISV 
partners are ready to move to someone else too....   So, 2007 will be 
interesting... it will.... 

 

That is my humble opinion....   I'm curious about yours....

 

 

 

 

Douglas A. Brown

President and Chief Technology Officer 

 

Microsoft MVP, Windows Server 

 

DABCC, Inc.

 

Phone:     (954) 778-9558

Fax:         (248) 479-0621

 

E-mail:       dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> 

Web:        http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/> 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Cláudio Rodrigues
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:14 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company..... 

 

For anyone that has deployed their e-gap solution, they are by far the 
Rolls-Royce of this type of solution/appliance on the market. CAG is good but 
not as polished as e-gap.

The next logical step is Microsoft acquiring Softgrid. That would be very 
interesting. Microsoft/Whale/Softgrid versus Citrix/CAG/Tarpon... :-) 

 

Cláudio Rodrigues

Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Terminal Services

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:26 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company..... 

 

A bit off subject but not really....  

 

Did you guys see that Microsoft just acquired a SSL VPN company???  Weird, 
hardware... but it is a Windows based VPN... unlike the CAG that is Linux.    
To learn more check this out:

 

http://www.dabcc.com/dabcc/webapplication/aspx/dabcc.content.aspx?intPKText=1921&intPKChannel=13

 

What do you think??    I think this is going to be very interesting for Citrix 
as they are going to compete with Microsoft in the SSL VPN (CAG) and the app 
deploy (Tarpon) markets...  

 

DB

 

Douglas A. Brown

President and Chief Technology Officer 

 

Microsoft MVP, Windows Server 

 

DABCC, Inc.

 

Phone:     (954) 778-9558

Fax:         (248) 479-0621

 

E-mail:       dbrown@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> 

Web:        http://www.dabcc.com <http://www.dabcc.com/> 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:22 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits

 

I don't recall the license port, but it is the standard one and is in the 
documentation. When you enable AAC mode the CAG's no longer require an explicit 
license entry, the AAC takes that over as well as most other functions. You can 
secure the communication between CAG and AAC with SSL port 443 or just 80 and 
9005 for management.....

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

________________________________

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Steve Greenberg
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits

 

Thanks Steve.. I didn't know that the Presentation Server license Server can be 
used to license CAGs. 

What ports is it communicating to the CAGs: is it citrix port?  Can it be 
changed to 443?

If we think to add AAC later, can we continue using a Presentation License 
Server or we need to move it to the AAC license Server?

 

Thanks again

Larisa

 

        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

        With CAG 4.2 you can actually use the same Citrix license server you 
use for Presentation Server if you want to. In this case, it is the standard 
netbios name of the server, i.e. just the machine name (you can type hostname 
at the command line to see this)

         

        Alternately, you can upload the license file into the CAG box itself. 
In that case you use the value entered is in the filed called "FQDN" on the 
network setup screen. When doing this the licenses, and the cert by the way, 
are included in the backup file so be sure to save off the config, this could 
save you a lot of work if you ever have a hardware failure or have to rebuild 
the boxes.

         

        If you already have a Citrix licensing server I recommend using it when 
you have more than one CAG.

         

        Also note that the when you fulfill your license file from 
www.mycitrix.com <http://www.mycitrix.com/>  you do have to provide the license 
server hostname. However, these licenses can be returned and reallocated to a 
different hostname if needed.

         

        Regards,

         

        Steve Greenberg

        Thin Client Computing

        34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

        Scottsdale, AZ 85262

        (602) 432-8649

        www.thinclient.net

        steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

         

        
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        From: l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:23 PM
        To: steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: FW: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits

         

         

         

                Steve,

                Can you answer this quick question, for me please.

                We just received 2 new CAGs and  I need to set them up as 
quickly as possible.  

                I am fairily new to Citrix and didn't work with the CAGs yet. ( 
I've impelmented the software version of CSG in our env.))

                 

                 

                The documenation on CAG is pretty detailed.  The question I 
have is about the licensing.

                As I understand, once you download it with the wrong host name 
-its unpossible to change it. ???

                 

                I am in the process of downloading the CAG licenses and need to 
enter the host name.

                What do I use?  Is it the URL (common name) that is assigned to 
our external DNS?  like hostname.insurity.com?

                I don't see any other host names that is being assigned to the 
CAGs.

                 

                Thanks in advance.

                 

                 

                -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- 
                From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
                To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
                Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits 
                Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:39:10 +0000 

                        Mind expanding upon the enterprise deployment 
components ?

                         

                        Are you doubling things up for failover ? Seperate AAC 
components ?

                        Using Netscaler ?

                                ----- Original Message ----- 

                                From: Steve Greenberg 
<mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

                                To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

                                Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:54 PM

                                Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC 
bits

                                 

                                Great timing, right in the middle of an 
Enterprise deployment and seeing some of these issues!

                                 

                                thanks

                                 

                                Steve Greenberg

                                Thin Client Computing

                                34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

                                Scottsdale, AZ 85262

                                (602) 432-8649

                                www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net/> 

                                steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

                                 

                                
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                                From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M
                                Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:15 AM
                                To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [THIN] New Access Gateway / AAC bits

                                 

                                4.2.2 released

                                 

                                http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX108902

                                 

                                New AAC Update

                                 

                                http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX109402

                                 

                                 

                                 

                
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