[THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
- From: "Tim Mangan" <tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:19:58 -0400
Theory on Citrix acquisition strategy:
Citrix is somewhat blinded by their relationship with Microsoft where they
licensed a very core part of their technology to a bigger player, get a good
financial reward, and continue to cooperate/compete.
We can see this as evident in their acquisitions of technology from RTO and
Aurema. (They don't seem to do this on the hardware acquisitions). The big
question for the partner is - is there enough room to cooperate and grow
after you hand over the jewels? I don't think that Citrix can see past
their own success with this approach to understand that the question exists.
tim
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:03 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
I heard the same thing but it went like this. or this is the rumor I heard..
Citrix wanted to buy only the SystemGuard part and Softricity had no choice
but to say no or they would have sold the one part they really need.
Also, I heard the amount was not enough to satisfy Softricity's investors.
you know, they do have a LOT of them.
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
Web: <http://www.dabcc.com/> http://www.dabcc.com
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:03 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
I do not have authoritative information but I am under the impression that
Softricity passed on Citrix, not the other way around...
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Chris Grecsek
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:16 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Penny smart, pound foolish.that's how I'd describe the way Citrix has been
run as an organization the past few years. I knew they had an opportunity to
buy Softricity and choosing to go it on their own just isn't/wasn't smart.
If M$ does end up buying Softricity I'll be very curious to see how that
changes the pricing and where/how M$ tries to incorporate the technology
into their overall product lines. Has anyone had any experience with the
integration between SMS and Softricity? How does it compare to some of the
other tools that are starting to integrate with Softricity - RES?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 7:38 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Oh man, I sort of feel for them... they are 0 for 2 on the good
acquisitions. I mean, I heard that Citrix could have bought VMware for
under 300 million and also had the chance to buy Softricity but choose to
try to copy their technology and just might end up with egg of their face.
It ought to be interesting, as I like to say.
Just think what might have been if Citrix would have bought both of them.
and they had the money, heck, they spent the money of small companies that
have panned out but not like VMware did for EMC or what I feel Softricity
will do for Microsoft.
Crazy news..
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
Web: <http://www.dabcc.com/> http://www.dabcc.com
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Andrew Wood
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:41 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
I wonder if Citrix are...oo whats the business accounting term for it.... ah
thats it ...shitting it ... right now?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: 19 May 2006 02:40
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Jim, like this?
Sources: Microsoft In Talks To Buy Softricity
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=18810
0194
I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I've been saying this for awhile now and I
just new it. It only makes sense.
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
Web: <http://www.dabcc.com/> http://www.dabcc.com
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kerr
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
Very interesting Doug. I'll bet things will continue to get interesting.
We will see.
----- Original Message -----
From: Douglas A. Brown <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:26 PM
Subject: [THIN] Microsoft buys SSL VPN Company.....
A bit off subject but not really..
Did you guys see that Microsoft just acquired a SSL VPN company??? Weird,
hardware. but it is a Windows based VPN. unlike the CAG that is Linux. To
learn more check this out:
http://www.dabcc.com/dabcc/webapplication/aspx/dabcc.content.aspx?intPKText=
1921
<http://www.dabcc.com/dabcc/webapplication/aspx/dabcc.content.aspx?intPKText
=1921&intPKChannel=13> &intPKChannel=13
What do you think?? I think this is going to be very interesting for
Citrix as they are going to compete with Microsoft in the SSL VPN (CAG) and
the app deploy (Tarpon) markets.
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
Phone: (954) 778-9558
Fax: (248) 479-0621
E-mail: <mailto:dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> dbrown@xxxxxxxxx
Web: <http://www.dabcc.com/> http://www.dabcc.com
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:22 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
I don't recall the license port, but it is the standard one and is in the
documentation. When you enable AAC mode the CAG's no longer require an
explicit license entry, the AAC takes that over as well as most other
functions. You can secure the communication between CAG and AAC with SSL
port 443 or just 80 and 9005 for management...
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Steve Greenberg
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
Thanks Steve.. I didn't know that the Presentation Server license Server can
be used to license CAGs.
What ports is it communicating to the CAGs: is it citrix port? Can it be
changed to 443?
If we think to add AAC later, can we continue using a Presentation License
Server or we need to move it to the AAC license Server?
Thanks again
Larisa
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
With CAG 4.2 you can actually use the same Citrix license server you use for
Presentation Server if you want to. In this case, it is the standard netbios
name of the server, i.e. just the machine name (you can type hostname at the
command line to see this)
Alternately, you can upload the license file into the CAG box itself. In
that case you use the value entered is in the filed called "FQDN" on the
network setup screen. When doing this the licenses, and the cert by the way,
are included in the backup file so be sure to save off the config, this
could save you a lot of work if you ever have a hardware failure or have to
rebuild the boxes.
If you already have a Citrix licensing server I recommend using it when you
have more than one CAG.
Also note that the when you fulfill your license file from www.mycitrix.com
<http://www.mycitrix.com/> you do have to provide the license server
hostname. However, these licenses can be returned and reallocated to a
different hostname if needed.
Regards,
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:l.bagdasarian@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:23 PM
To: steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: FW: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
Steve,
Can you answer this quick question, for me please.
We just received 2 new CAGs and I need to set them up as quickly as
possible.
I am fairily new to Citrix and didn't work with the CAGs yet. ( I've
impelmented the software version of CSG in our env.))
The documenation on CAG is pretty detailed. The question I have is about
the licensing.
As I understand, once you download it with the wrong host name -its
unpossible to change it. ???
I am in the process of downloading the CAG licenses and need to enter the
host name.
What do I use? Is it the URL (common name) that is assigned to our external
DNS? like hostname.insurity.com?
I don't see any other host names that is being assigned to the CAGs.
Thanks in advance.
-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:39:10 +0000
Mind expanding upon the enterprise deployment components ?
Are you doubling things up for failover ? Seperate AAC components ?
Using Netscaler ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Greenberg
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Access Gateway / AAC bits
Great timing, right in the middle of an Enterprise deployment and seeing
some of these issues!
thanks
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net/>
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of M
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:15 AM
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] New Access Gateway / AAC bits
4.2.2 released
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX108902
New AAC Update
http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX109402
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