I agree Eric, SA/Maintanace/Upgrade Support, whatever the vendor calls it, we get it for pretty much any piece of software that goes on a machine here, cost of project.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Foote, Eric [mailto:EFoote@xxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:46 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame 3.0 Ships Today In my opinion SA is just a cost of doing business on Citrix. We have =3D 4000 seats, and the SA is just part of the budget as long as we are =3D running Citrix. Every year we get something of value from it. I just wish it included some form of phone support. Eric -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of PETERSON, DAVID Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:09 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame 3.0 Ships Today Sometimes it seems that they think everyone has subscription advantage. =3D =3D3D For me, I do everything I can to get management to approve renewals in =3D =3D3D my budget. 600 XPe license SA renewals costs $30,000 = @ $50 each.=3D3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Boggan [mailto:MBoggan@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:41 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame 3.0 Ships Today OK. I may be cheap but doesn't $399 per user seem a little steep? =3D3D geez. we have 600 users. Thats over $240,000 to upgrade. ummmmm. are they =3D =3D3D nuts? > _________________________________=3D3D20 >=3D3D20 > Michael Boggan > Network Engineer/Citrix Admin > Virtual Desktop Inc.=3D3D20 > Dallas, Texas=3D3D20 > Ph: (972) 960-6400=3D3D20 > Fax: (972) 960-6445=3D3D20 > email: mboggan@xxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 > <http://www.virtualdesktopinc.com>=3D3D20 > _________________________________=3D3D20 -----Original Message----- From: Scott [mailto:sreichardt@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:22 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame 3.0 Ships Today Does anyone know yet if the benefits of 3.0 from XP FR3 are good enough to make one want to upgrade? I only have a two server farm with about 40 users. The only problems I ever have are some people getting disconnected and the session staying in an active state so they don't get their session back on re-login. Other than that, we run pretty smooth. =3D3D20 Scott -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Landin, Mark Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:12 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: MetaFrame 3.0 Ships Today > MPS3 is now available in MyCitrix. The citrix.com site has=3D3D3D20 =3D =3D3D20 >switched over to the new stuff, and the execs will be talking=3D3D3D20 =3D =3D3D about >it in todays full-day webcast. =3D3D3D20 > =3D3D3D20 >=3D3D3D20 > Brian So when does your Metaframe 3.0 book come out? What's the upgrade cost for those of us who have the 2.0 book? :) =3D3D3D20 ******************************************************** This week's sponsor - Emergent Online Emergent delivers end-to-end solutions for private and public sector clients. From centralized application management, business continuity, outsourcing, to application development, security, and messaging solutions. http://www.go-eol.com/index.asp ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This week's sponsor - Emergent Online Emergent delivers end-to-end solutions for private and public sector clients. From centralized application management, business continuity, outsourcing, to application development, security, and messaging =3D3D solutions. http://www.go-eol.com/index.asp ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This week's sponsor - Emergent Online Emergent delivers end-to-end solutions for private and public sector =3D3D clients. From centralized application management, business continuity, =3D =3D3D outsourcing, to application development, security, and messaging =3D3= D solutions. http://www.go-eol.com/index.asp ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This week's sponsor - Emergent Online Emergent delivers end-to-end solutions for private and public sector =3D clients. From centralized application management, business continuity, =3D outsourcing, to application development, security, and messaging =3D solutions. http://www.go-eol.com/index.asp ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=3D20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This week's sponsor - Emergent Online Emergent delivers end-to-end solutions for private and public sector clients. From centralized application management, business continuity, outsourcing, to application development, security, and messaging solutions. http://www.go-eol.com/index.asp ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This week's sponsor - Emergent Online Emergent delivers end-to-end solutions for private and public sector clients. From centralized application management, business continuity, outsourcing, to application development, security, and messaging solutions. http://www.go-eol.com/index.asp ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm