[THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for a presentation I am doing
- From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:34:01 -0700
Sounds like you were dealing with some bozos in your region!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rob Slayden
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:46 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for
a presentation I am doing
We had 28-32 servers and over 4000 users and for several years we paid about
$28K-32K per year. Then we received a bill for about $650K for SA and
management said "you gotta' be kidding, right?" We communicated this to
Citrix and they were seemingly un-interested in our concern. We even had 2
different large integrators in SoCal (Axcent Technologies and Agile 360) try
to negotiate with them on our behalf, to no avail. Then about 6 or 8 months
ago, we had a project that we were seeking bids for and we had an integrator
bring Citrix back in here as they (Citrix) had indicated an interest. All
during the meeting they indicated that they wanted to work with us and
re-establish themselves as a strategic partner and they seemed to indicate
that they were going to give us a bit of a break on the SA. Well you can
imagine our surprise when the "updated" invoice came for the retail SA
amount plus an additional charge of $30-35K as a late fee.
Thanks for stopping by, but we are so done with that. I think we are more
interested in developing a long-term strategic partnership with a company
that gives a darn about its customers. It just seems to me that with Citrix,
it's all about the money. Pony up or beat it. Not that they don't have a
decent product, but there's more to a company than simply the software
technology. Look at Microsoft; they will bend over backwards to help you
out, including bringing in partners on MS credit. Citrix? Need support? Talk
to our resellers; don't bug us, we're busy counting our dough. I am sure
there are some great success stories out there and of course, if it wasn't
for Citrix, many of those on this list would not be gainfully employed
supporting the Citrix technology, but it just seems to me that Citrix is
turning their backs on their customers and placing their allegiance in the
all-mighty dollar. We shall see what outcome this produces for them in the
long-term...
rob
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:20 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for
a presentation I am doing
Did they try to charge you more than you would have paid if you had stayed
current? To me that should be absolute max they charge..
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rob Slayden
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:13 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for
a presentation I am doing
Actually, that's not it at all. For what we do, publish Internet Explorer,
it works fine (110 users per DL360 server, not even breaking a sweat). We
just have a bad taste left over from the SA extortion attempt and subsequent
meetings with Citrix to "address" our concerns that resulted in invoices
from Citrix with original SA pricing INCLUDING late fees. I'm done with
them. More power to those that continue using Citrix...
rob
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:25 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for
a presentation I am doing
We come across this regularly with clients that have less than ideal Citrix
implementations in the past (not provided by us!). We usually come in and
refresh the software and create an updated design, and in the process, use a
new naming convention that takes away the word "Citrix" from the project.
Once we do that we have a very high level of satisfaction.
PS- I see that you are running XP- no wonder they aren't happy!!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rob Slayden
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:59 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for
a presentation I am doing
Actually, we are looking at potentially yanking Citrix out completely and
going with PMF or pure Terminal Services. Citrix is not highly regarded in
these parts...
rob
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:01 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for
a presentation I am doing
Rob,
Probably not what you are looking for, but if you upgrade to PS4 you can use
policies to automatically assign session printers based on the subnet of
each club..
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rob Slayden
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:32 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for
a presentation I am doing
Matthew,
I'd be very interested to hear some specifics regarding how you are
accomplishing this as we modify a mandatory profile to change network
printer configurations and when we build a club profile, we manually add the
club's network printers. We have 380+ fitness clubs and we have Windows
TCP/IP printers at each one. We run those queues on Server 2003 File and
Print servers in the data center. We use a single mandatory profile for each
club, which is used by anywhere from 8-18 users. Works great but simplifying
the network printer piece would be a plus. Note that we run MF XPe 1.0
FR4/SP4 on Server 2003 on the back-end.
Thanks!
rob
24 Hour Fitness, Inc.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Matthew Shrewsbury
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 5:27 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for
a presentation I am doing
I use a script that installs and removes printers based on AD groups.
Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+
Network Manager
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:29 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Looking for your Original/Innovative uses for Citrix for a
presentation I am doing
Hi all
I am going to be doing a presentation at CSEIT prior to iForum on Getting
the most of Citrix/Using Citrix across your organization.
I am looking for additional ideas from people on how they have come up with
innovative/original new ways to save time and use Citrix in your
corporation.
I have things like ways of publishing MMC's of AD users, Rdesktops and
Exchange Control Panel, Publishing Printers Folder, Web interace mods,
CSG/WI usage, etc. Just looking for some other great things people are
doing with Citrix Products that they think others may not of thought of that
other companies could use. I'll make the whole presentation available after
CSEIT to the list.
Please post to the list as this could be a great thread also. Include
registry hacks, text you used to publish the item, etc. I'll try and give
credit where credit is due.
Thanks,
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