I find the reactions to MS discussions very amusing! I realize there are two schools of thought- that it is no big deal and MS is everyone's friend. I happen to belong to the other school that believes that MS is just like the oil companies (and government agencies that tax oil) and are abusing our need for energy sources to skim our bank accounts! (BTW- they do it because we let them) Ok, go back to sleep now, just make sure to keep buying your consumer goods every day and your gasoline! If it starts to bother go buy a Tivo, an IPOD and a new DELL computer to keep your mind off of it! :-) Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Riggins Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:53 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Interesting read: Microsoft Malware report from Malicious Software removal tool ZZzzzZZZzzzzZZZz <snort!> ZzzzZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZ You had me on the edge of my seat there, Steve! ;) Roger Riggins Network Administrator Lutheran Services in Iowa w: 319.859.3543 c: 319.290.5687 http://www.lsiowa.org -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:54 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Interesting read: Microsoft Malware report from Malicious Software removal tool My point is that Microsoft is essentially a Monopoly who's own best interests drive the development, the pricing and the available technology options in the market. I have no issue with gathering data about spyware and viruses statistics, that in itself seems reasonable. I applaud MS for the advances they have made in the quality of their products and technologies in recent years. I would recommend we don't lose sight of the reality though that MS is a monopolistic entity- that should be cause for caution as the key provider of technology which defines so much of our modern life, personal interest, personal income and our society at large. Just look at history- Capitalism is a great system but breaks down when the economic interest of a few outweight the benefit for society as a whole. Think of the early industrial revolution, or, look at energy prices now!! Do you honestly think cheaper and more sustainable energy options have not been available for the last 50 years? This has happened over and over again in Western society with disastrous results. I am simply recommending that we keep our eyes open!! -end treatise- Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kerr Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:12 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Interesting read: Microsoft Malware report from Malicious Software removal tool and your point is? ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Greenberg To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: [THIN] Re: Interesting read: Microsoft Malware report from Malicious Software removal tool Except those other vendors don't own the OS and the majority of other software used by everyone in the world! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:11 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Interesting read: Microsoft Malware report from Malicious Software removal tool Oh and like every other antivirus tool from other vendors on the planet doesn't??? Are you that naive? Joe Shonk l.com <mailto:k@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: Interesting that Microsoft has exact numbers. Yet another Microsoft product that phones home. Joe _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:17 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Interesting read: Microsoft Malware report from Malicious Software removal tool Microsoft has released an interesting report on some results from their Malicious Software Removal tool. There are some pretty shocking results of the amount of virii this thing has cleaned. For example 4.4 million removals of Win32/Rbot, another interesting statistic..the tool cleaned one computer that had over 251 variants of malware. I can only imagine what that person was doing on the web. : ) Article about it here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1975563,00.asp See the full report from Microsoft here: http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/d/e/3de2470b-ab9a-4a7f-b760-ee2421d f294a/WindowsRemovalToolWP.doc Lutheran Services in Iowa Confidentiality Notice ================================================================== The information contained in this communication may be confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender immediately and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. 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