[THIN] Re: Imaging MPS 3.0 w/ Ghost or other Imaging Software for Deployment

  • From: Rusty Yates <rusty27@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:40:23 -0600

So let me get this right.  These are the steps that you take?

On a 2003 Server w/ MPS 3.0 Server that is in production:
Creating Image:
1.  Place the server in a dummy farm (if it is in production farm)
2.  Put the server in a workgroup (if it isn't already)
3.  Image Server
Restoring Image:
1.  run Newsid, changing the name & SID.
2.  reboot
3.  Join Domain, then run CHFARM before rebooting
4.  reboot
5.  Go home :)


On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:09:23 -0500, RMC - Brian Hill
<brian.hill@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have to disagree slightly, although I do agree that your process does
> work.  In similar fashion, I do build the server outside of the domain, and
> once I blast the image down I do the following:
> 
> If it's 2000, I run Ghostwalker right after I image before I ever boot it,
> change the SID & rename.  Boot for first time.
> If it's 2003 I boot to W2k3 and run Newsid, changing the name & SID.
> Reboot.
> I then join the Domain and then Run CHFARM before rebooting (Citrix is
> initially installed to a spurious farm).  Reboot and you're finished.
> Go home  :)
> 
> If it's Windows 2k, we're talking one reboot.  2003 requires and additional
> because Ghostwalker doesn't work with 2k3.  Your procedure definitely works
> and there is nothing wrong with it, although, my bets are that running
> CHFARM is much cleaner than uninstalling and reinstalling Metaframe, and has
> to be quicker, even with an unattended install.  The method I use still
> joins the domain and farm anew, but saves the extra step of reinstalling
> Metaframe and any patches.  I've yet to have the first issue with this
> method since the inception of XP.  There is nothing wrong with the method
> you use.  It just seems like some extra steps, reboots, and time involved to
> create the unattended install, reinstall Metaframe, and reinstall Metaframe
> patches if applicable, rather than just running CHFARM and being done with
> it.
> 
> 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Brian :)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:15 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Imaging MPS 3.0 w/ Ghost or other Imaging Software
> for Deployment
> 
> Our favorite approach is to remove Metaframe, remove the machine from the
> domain and give it a meaningful name like "baseimage" in workgroup "image"
> and set the network to DHCP. Then deploy the image to a new machine with
> tool of choice, set host name and IP, join domain and install Metaframe
> using an unattended script. This way, there are no issues with domain SIDs
> and farm membership.
> 
> However, it is possible to keep Metaframe installed and create an image, but
> we feel the additional steps it requires are equivalaent to amount of work
> above without the "warm and fuzzy" of joining the domain and the farm anew.
> 
> Steve Greenberg
> Thin Client Computing
> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
> Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> (602) 432-8649
> (602) 296-0411 fax
> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Rusty Yates
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:56 AM
> To: Thin
> Subject: [THIN] Imaging MPS 3.0 w/ Ghost or other Imaging Software for
> Deployment
> 
> What is everything using to deploy MPS 3.0?  I'm looking to see if there are
> better solutions out there.
> 
> We are currently using the following steps to Image our MPS 3.0 Servers:
> 
> Create Image:
> 1. Uninstall Citrix
> 2. SysPrep Server
> 3. Ghost Server
> 
> Restore Image:
> 1. Restore Image
> 2. Install Citrix
> 3. Install Citrix Hotfixs, etc.....
> 
> My main question is can we create a Image that can be deployed without
> having to uninstall Citrix first?
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