[THIN] Re: IBM blades for Citrix vs. HP DL360?

  • From: Jeremy Saunders <jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 06:41:01 +0800

Interesting view James.

Even though I work for IBM, we also deploy HP, Dell, etc. We are part of
the service arm. I am infact a HP ASE. My experience has found that the HP
blades are difficult to work with. The Java interface to the Advanced iLO
is poor (mouse sync is a known issue), etc.

The IBMs also have build in Floppy, CD and USB, and a KVM switch. The
method to achieve this through the HPs always leaves me very frustrated.

People tend to buy the HP blades due to the fact that they are a HP house,
and are more interested in sticking with HP. But if I get a chance to
demonstrate the two, customers then choose IBM.

I think it all comes down to preferences and peoples aliances.

 Kind regards,

 Jeremy Saunders
 Senior Technical Specialist

 Integrated Technology Services &
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 IBM Australia
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Place where I used to work picked the HP BL-series blades over the DL360's,
IBM and Dell blades, and we were very happy with them.  At the time, we had
two fully-populated racks of them, and I'm sure in the two years since I've
left that job, they have added more (and they still rave about them).

We chose them because of:

1.  Hot-swappable drives in the blade itself
2.  Larger variety of networking options (in-chassis switch, in-chassis
pass-through patch panel, in-chassis switch or patch panel with Fibre
Channel)
3.  HP beat the snot out of the other vendors in managablity (Altiris
rocks*..plus, at that time, the built-in iLOs for remote-management allowed
each blade to have a unique IP and connection for remote management, IIRC,
the Dell and IBM had one remote connection per blade chassis.)

The major knock against the IBMs for us was twofold:

1.  Had some really, really bad experiences with the IBM 2U servers right
before that in Linux-land.  (x330 maybe, I can't remember the IBM model
numbers, but I remember it was a 2U).
2.  Their FC connectivity at that time made highway robbery look appealing.

Any reason why you aren't looking at the HP BL-series to replace your
DL360's?

James

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Subject:           [THIN] IBM blades for Citrix vs. HP DL360?

Anyone want to chime in with their 2 cents on the IBM blade vs the HP
DL360?  We're currently using the DL360s but looking at the IBMs...just
wondering if anyone had any stories to tell.

Thanks!

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