And are there still dinosaurs and cavemen where you work Neil? ; ) "Braebaum, Neil" <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Well the 10 year thing may not be so ridiculous. All the Winterms I deployed in the field, dating back to 98, are the original items (a small number may have been replaced - like-for-like by engineers but all are the same model). Up until very recently, I had some of the original server hardware in use. The main reason for decommissioning some of it (and I'm talking about 200 Mhz Pentium Pro server hardware) is simply management costs, and datacentre real estate. But the hardware still works and supports very similar loads to the original implementation. It's only when you increase OS or application demands that things become obsolete. But the investment my company made in the initial end user hardware has not needed replacement. Nor will it likely do, before the implementation is removed. And that won't be far off 10 years.