Mallesons Stephen Jaques www.mallesons.com Confidential communication i've got n+2 plus 2 data collectors which are high spec'd boxes we've also go other hardware that i can run our RIS image and MF / apps = scripts over to build a citrix box in 30 mins in an emergency John Rowlandson Technical Support Specialist Mallesons Stephen Jaques Sydney T +61 2 9296 3653 F +61 2 9296 3999 john.rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Wednesday, 17 March 2004 8:02 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: How many users are you getting? Yes, we always recommend "N+1", that is, the number of servers you need = =3D to comfortable host all your sessions plus one additional server. Not =3D everyone is always able to do this, but it is ideal. Higher end environments with actually go with N+2, N+3, etc. One way to fudge this slightly when additional servers in not an option, = =3D is to recommend a dedicated data collector be used with identical hardware = =3D and software config. In the event of a failure allow the DC to host =3D sessions. Again, this is not ideal, but may be necessary in some situations. Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax=3D20 steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = =3D Behalf Of Philip Walley Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:45 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: How many users are you getting? I have one client that currently has 4 Xpe boxes servicing approx. 100+ users per machine (not by my recommendation). As I explained to them, if = =3D one of the servers goes down, the redistribution of the users over the =3D remaining 3 servers potentially could cause a degradation in overall =3D performance.=3D3D20 My question is what do you guys and gals who have 100+ users per server = =3D do if one goes out? Do you maintain enough servers to handle the extra load = =3D in emergency situations?=3D3D20 I usually recommend that clients keep the user load to 35-45 users per server max. and purchase more hardware if more users are connecting. =3D3D20 Philip Walley=3D3D20 Sr. Network Engineer=3D3D20 Consultrix Technologies=3D3D20 Memphis, TN. =3D3D20 Consultrix Help Desk: (601) 956-8909 Memphis Office: (901) 383-1300=3D3D20 Memphis Fax: (901) 383-1375 =3D3D20 -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = =3D Behalf Of Ron Oglesby Posted At: Monday, March 15, 2004 3:14 PM Posted To: The = =3D thin mailing list Conversation: [THIN] How many users are you getting? Subject: [THIN] How many users are you getting? In an earlier e-mail on this list Sjolund, Dag was seen to say: "we routinely have 250+ concurrent sessions per server" Saweeeet. Is what I say to that. The largest number of concurrent connections I could ever get or have worked on was about 120 at one =3D client with 110 per server (taking second place) at another.=3D3D20 Both of these were running Term EM applications on older quad =3D xeons.(read 500mhz and a little up no 3.0 ghz stuff) So the question that came to my mind is: How many users are YOU getting = =3D per box? And on the big ones (100+ users) what types of apps are you =3D running? Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect Microsoft MVP - Windows Server =3D3D20 RapidApp, Chicago Mobile 815 325-7618 Office 312 372-7188 e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =3D3D20 ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. Emergent OnLine is the leading server-based computing consulting =3D integration firm in the nation. 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