[THIN] Re: Gina files

Hmmm...we are using Notes 5.0.8 so we still have it.   I disabled the
Single signon service and have not had any more than the usual "logon
hangs".  It's wait-and-see mode now.

adam




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Hi Adam,

My response to Mark yesterday about the his GINA question was one of those,
"did I send that?" answers, where I missed the point of the question.

GinaDLL defines the primary GINA (Graphical Identification and
Authentication) that handles logins. ctxGinaDLL defines the next GINA
chained by the Citrix GINA. If you've got the Notes client installed, with
single notes logon, then the msgina.dll entry gets replaced by ngina.dll.
However ngina.dll still chains to msgina.dll so what you've got is fine.

If the ctxGinaDLL entry is changed back to msgina.dll, then the Notes
single logon feature will be disabled.

I believe the ngina.dll isn't used anymore with Notes client version 5.0.12
and later.

regards,

Rick

Ulrich Mack
Volante Systems

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Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files



I notice that I have two gina entries in the registry:

GinaDLL = ctxgina.dll
ctxGinaDLL = ngina.dll


I am guessing that these are chained gina files.  I think ngina.dll comes
from Lotus Notes when you use the single sign-on service.  Not sure though.

adam




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I agree - it is not something I would change just for the sake of it.
One sort of assumes that Citrix has got this right and as such may make
some assumptions about being first in the list. To follow on from
Steve's point - yes, it has worked perfectly (but test, test, and test
again).

That said it looks like I'm going to have to change the order on my main
farm in a few weeks time !!! .

Regards,

Alan.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: 29 December 2004 14:43
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files

 Ginadll
I have hacked this too to work with multiple authtentication systems
simulatneoulsy and it worked perfectly. As a general rule I would stick
with
CTX first, but it doesn't hurt to change the order or try other
variations,
sometimes it is the difference between being able to do certain things
or
not...


Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Hutchinson, Alan
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:39 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files

Just to "muddy" the waters a little - I have in the past changed the
order
in which the Gina's are processed (Novell (contextless)/nFuse/getAccess
environment) such that a "pass-through"
type authentication takes place.  I assume this only works because we're
not
using any of the so-called "advanced features".

Regards,

Alan.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: 29 December 2004 14:22
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files


Another thing to consider is that you can string the GINA's so that they
pass unsupported calls onto the next one. In light of this you probably
want
the Citrix one first and then either MS or Novell next and then
application
specific ones last....


Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Matthew Shrewsbury
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:52 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files

Brian has some info on his website about it. It seems you can use the
Microsoft GINA but you lose some features.

http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=236


Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:38 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Gina files


Metaframe requires their GINA for certain functions/features. Having
said
that though I have seen it work with other third party gina files that
get
substituted upon installation. You can simply change it and see what
happens, if you can't get back in you can do a remote registry edit to
set
it back.

If you have no reason to change it, leave it alone, Citrix has perfected
this subsystem and it is very reliable...


Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:15 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Gina files

HI All,

I noticed that under
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WIndowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon, the gina
being
used it ctxgina.dll and ngina.dll (possible my Lotus notes single
signon).
Is there any harm in forcing the system to use msgina.dll?  (Other than
disabling my Notes single signon).

adam

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