[THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of Terminal Services
- From: "Tim Mangan" <tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:31:25 -0400
He did say that, but I suspect it really means WinFx so you might get it on
XP. Oh, and somewhere along the line someone also talked about a sub-Vista
OS for thin devices too.
When it comes to all that new graphics gee-wiz, I think the developers need
to detect TS and offer a "lighter" UI experience. Microsoft is telling
developers this but will they listen? Maybe some will. If they don't I am
thinking about how the graphics engine detects the power of the video card
and adjusts - so maybe we just need to put a crappy card in the server
(since the bits get redirected before reaching the card anyway).
tim
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Carl Stalhood
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:22 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version
of Terminal Services
Didn't the guy say that you needed a Vista client to use the RDP Gateway?
And since the shortcuts are delivered through .msi, this seems to restrict
it to Windows machines.
The Web Interface they demoed did not look like a packaged product but
rather a customized solution that uses the RDP ActiveX control.
I'm still waiting to here how they integrate the newer graphics intense
applications like Office 12. I believe this is the Avalon integration they
mentioned.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:47 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version
of Terminal Services
Doug,
Great points! The other thing to consider is that there are two or three
other products out already that add seamless and or published apps to TS and
they have not hurt Citrix to date.........
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version
of Terminal Services
I agree with you Steve! Yah, the new TS stuff is very impressive and it
will cut in to some of the business Citrix picks as some customers will say,
"Is TS good enough?"
But, some want a product that will completely round out the TS experience
and supply killer management, security and control around the protocol.
This is where Citrix comes in to the picture. I think it will be like an
Oracle deal, I mean, people buy Oracle because they NEED the best but they
settle for MS SQL because it is good enough. (Until SQL 2005!)
I also agree with Steve's comments about some of this stuff shipping in 2007
and some of it is going to be further down the road. As we have always
said, Citrix is years ahead of Microsoft so it will be interesting what
Presentation Server will be doing in 2007 and beyond. But then it comes
back to the question, "Do we need that or not, is TS good enough to supply
us remote access and access to applications that are bandwidth intensive?"
This is the important question and this cannot be answered until 2007.
Of course, you must not just look at Microsoft for competition to Citrix.
What about the Blade PC, VMware Ace and/or SoftGrid applications? They all
cut in to the value-add that SBC brings to you. I guess it is time to
reassess the market, or will be in 2007.. ;)
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:11 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version
of Terminal Services
> Buh bye Citrix
I don't necessarily agree, Citrix is a lot more than publish apps. I haven't
seen the video, but I suspect that MS's version has a number of limitations
with things such as client version supported. Also, if this is a 2007
product then I don't expect Citrix's customer base to wait until then, and,
Citirx is not sitting still !!!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Bbeck
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:02 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version
of Terminal Services
Buh bye Citrix
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com <mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version
of Terminal Services
Note the guy claims that the next version of windows server (vista or
whatever) WILL have applications remoting (published applications)AND https
tunneling (a la web interface)
JK
FYI
JK
Subject: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of Terminal
Services
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:19:45 -0400
* * DABCC NEWS FLASH * *
Microsoft shows off the next version of Terminal Services!
A MUST SEE
09/21/2005 -
Microsoft released a killer video that shows off the next version of
Terminal Services!! Check out this video interview with Tad Brockway,
Microsoft's Terminal Services Group Program Manager. In this video, Tad
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