[THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of Terminal Services
- From: "Carl Stalhood" <cstalhood@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:22:06 -0500
Didn't the guy say that you needed a Vista client to use the RDP Gateway?
And since the shortcuts are delivered through .msi, this seems to restrict it
to Windows machines.
The Web Interface they demoed did not look like a packaged product but rather a
customized solution that uses the RDP
ActiveX control.
I'm still waiting to here how they integrate the newer graphics intense
applications like Office 12. I believe this is
the Avalon integration they mentioned.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:47 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of
Terminal Services
Doug,
Great points! The other thing to consider is that there are two or three other
products out already that add seamless
and or published apps to TS and they have not hurt Citrix to date.........
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Douglas A. Brown
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of
Terminal Services
I agree with you Steve! Yah, the new TS stuff is very impressive and it will
cut in to some of the business Citrix
picks as some customers will say, "Is TS good enough?"
But, some want a product that will completely round out the TS experience and
supply killer management, security and
control around the protocol. This is where Citrix comes in to the picture. I
think it will be like an Oracle deal, I
mean, people buy Oracle because they NEED the best but they settle for MS SQL
because it is good enough. (Until SQL
2005!)
I also agree with Steve's comments about some of this stuff shipping in 2007
and some of it is going to be further down
the road. As we have always said, Citrix is years ahead of Microsoft so it
will be interesting what Presentation Server
will be doing in 2007 and beyond. But then it comes back to the question, "Do
we need that or not, is TS good enough to
supply us remote access and access to applications that are bandwidth
intensive?" This is the important question and
this cannot be answered until 2007.
Of course, you must not just look at Microsoft for competition to Citrix. What
about the Blade PC, VMware Ace and/or
SoftGrid applications? They all cut in to the value-add that SBC brings to
you. I guess it is time to reassess the
market, or will be in 2007.. ;)
DB
Douglas A. Brown
President and Chief Technology Officer
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
DABCC, Inc.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:11 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of
Terminal Services
> Buh bye Citrix
I don't necessarily agree, Citrix is a lot more than publish apps. I haven't
seen the video, but I suspect that MS's
version has a number of limitations with things such as client version
supported. Also, if this is a 2007 product then I
don't expect Citrix's customer base to wait until then, and, Citirx is not
sitting still !!!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Bbeck
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:02 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of
Terminal Services
Buh bye Citrix
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com <mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Fwd: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of
Terminal Services
Note the guy claims that the next version of windows server (vista or whatever)
WILL have applications remoting
(published applications)AND https tunneling (a la web interface)
JK
FYI
JK
Subject: DABCC NEWS FLASH - Microsoft Video on next Version of Terminal Services
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:19:45 -0400
* * DABCC NEWS FLASH * *
Microsoft shows off the next version of Terminal Services!
A MUST SEE
09/21/2005 -
Microsoft released a killer video that shows off the next version of Terminal
Services!! Check out this video interview
with Tad Brockway, Microsoft's Terminal Services Group Program Manager. In
this video, Tad discusses what Terminal
Services is and why you might want to use it. He even talks a bit about
Longhorn's Remote Programs (Project RAIL,
Remote Application Integrated Locally) and the new HTTPS Gateway for RDP.
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