Really? This always cracks me up. Like if you were to divulge that you had a pair of X type ciscos as the backbone with X type redundant routers and fiber to the Y type in the rack etc they would give you a hassle? Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect Microsoft MVP, Windows Server=20 =20 RapidApp, Chicago Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 815.325.7618 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =20 -----Original Message----- From: Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:20 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Dream environment Hardware can be discussed with some limitations. We are a Compaq/HP shop and we run DL580 and DL380 G3 for Metaframe. The G3's use the onbaord Smart Array 5i with the Battert Backed Write Cache and the DL580 use the 5302/64 controller. We do have a fairly robust network infrastructure which I can not divulge (my security team would 'draw and quarter' me if I did). adam =20 "Andrew Rogers" <Andrew.Rogers@rennie-e To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> vans.co.uk> cc: Sent by: Subject: [THIN] Re: Dream environment =20 thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx rg =20 =20 04/01/2004 08:16 AM Please respond to thin =20 =20 Are you thinking about hardware, or just purely stuff like "must be secure"=3D There lots of little fiddley things like RAID setups and that you could con=3D Andrew --o-- >>> Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/04/04 15:47:17 >>> Didn't see nay responses so I fire I'd try again.....any takers. Original message edited 4/1/04 ----- Forwarded by Adam Baum/genserv/mesaaz on 04/01/2004 07:45 AM ----- =3D =3D20 Adam.Baum@cityofm =3D =3D20 esa.org To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D =3D20 Sent by: cc: =3D =3D20 thin-bounce@freel Subject: [THIN] Dream envir=3D ists.org =3D =3D20 =3D =3D20 =3D =3D20 03/30/2004 10:57 =3D =3D20 AM =3D =3D20 Please respond to =3D =3D20 thin =3D =3D20 =3D =3D20 =3D =3D20 HI All, I have been asked to provide a roadmap for our Citrix environment. Our standard way of developing roadmaps is to come up with our "dream" environment, analyze its costs/benefits, see if it meets our requirements, settle of the final solution, and then develop a plan for getting there. The "getting there" part may require multiple transitions...sort of like mutating into the final solution with several stops along the way. I am in the first phase. If you were walking into a new company that had no computers, but a standard list of apps, what would your dream Metaframe environment look like? Here are some guidelines: Windows 2003 Active Directory will be in use Beside using internally, clients will need access from home Must be secure (ie..128bit encryption, etc) PC's and thinclient devices are to be used Stability is key Can use 3rd party utilities such as Tscale and Simplify Printing. Antivirus is a must This is a local government - we run all sorts of stuff. The more we can have on Metaframe, the better. adam ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. Emergent OnLine is the leading server-based computing consulting integration firm in the nation. 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