[THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
- From: "Jim Kenzig" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:35:29 -0400
Doug were you around when it was Arpanet and then the usenet newsgroups were
first being created. I can tell you that the first public ones were not
gaming ones. I think there were about 100 alt.erotica ones. A lot of the
ascii pictures that were first animated had nothiing to do with gaming. I
ran a bbs back in the early 80's. I had thousands of files, "all types" with
lots of games also. I know what mostly got downloaded.
Jim
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Douglas Brown <dbrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Oh Jim... I think there are support groups for this... We are here for
> you... ;)
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> On 6/6/08 3:38 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Jim, you seem to know an awful lot about the topic…. J
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> *Steve Greenberg
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Jim Kenzig
> *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 12:23 PM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
> ofVirtualization
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> Lol.
> Well you know it is because of P-O-R-N that the computer industry has
> evolved like it did. Chatting, Video, Pictures, virtual worlds, games, all
> would not be where they are now had it not been for it and it IS documented.
> Think about it Things like virtual girl existed long before second life.
> The only thing video was used for was that, the most images I can remember
> being out there even when there were just BBS's were you got it.
> Jim
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> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Dana Carvey said to Mark and Wes during his stand up routine, "So what is
> this XEN Desktop thing? I get my desktop, now what the hell do I do? Ok
> (imitating a Nerd), type P-O-R-N!!!"
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> Think about the Citrix message a "new desktop computer every time you boot
> up"… think about who needs that exactly??
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> *Steve Greenberg
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> Thin Client Computing
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> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
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> Scottsdale, AZ 85266
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> *(602) 432-8649
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> www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net>
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> *steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Douglas Brown
> *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 11:50 AM
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> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
> ofVirtualization
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> And? What is it?
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> On 6/6/08 2:48 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <
> http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
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> Oh crap, I just realized what the real killer app is for VDI……
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> Dana Carvey nailed it at SYNERGY, seemed like a joke but I think it is
> right on the money !
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> *Steve Greenberg
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> Thin Client Computing
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> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
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> Scottsdale, AZ 85266
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> *(602) 432-8649
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> www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net> <www.thinclient.net <
> http://www.thinclient.net> >
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> *steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [
> mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf
> Of *Douglas Brown
> *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
> ofVirtualization
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> I agree but only if they don't burry it in XenApp Plat or XenDesktop Plat.
> It needs to be a separate product for people who might not want to use
> either XenApp or XenDesktop....
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> On 6/6/08 9:58 AM, "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx <
> http://joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
> Why also discuss PVS and if it should be part of XenApp Platinum ( I'm
> willing to give up Edgesight and Password Manager in exchange) and should
> Citrix fix their products or spend their money adding new features.
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [
> mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf
> Of *Jim Kenzig
> *Sent:* Friday, June 06, 2008 4:52 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
> ofVirtualization
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> Speaking of Joe this is one of my favorite picturess I took from Synergy
> This is during Dougs Geek Speak session and is a picture of the front row.
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> http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#5203201039049314546
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> From left to right Joe is the one Hovering standing next to Brad Stephens,
> who is Next to Mark Templeton who is next to Shawn Bass (who had just
> finished his VDI talk) Barry Flanagan, Jeroen Van De Kamp and Brian Madden
> are in there also. Now use the right arrow and click over 2 pictures and
> see how fast Brian catches Marks ear. Click 2 more to the right and there is
> Grumpy Doug. And here is one of Steve, Joe and Doug picking apart VDI at
> the CTP dinner
> http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#5203201176488268290
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> Jim
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> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <
> http://steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
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> This is a long standing debate between Joe and I . To me VDI, and most
> hypervisor virtualizations for that matter, are just not efficient enough.
> For applications that require remoting and certain kinds of processing I am
> sure there is a good match, i.e. stock traders, CAD engineers working at a
> distance, etc.
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> The case we are pondering more and more is where remoting is needed but the
> requirements to get the application set working in TS are highly
> complicated. These may not be highly specialized apps, but apps that just
> don't play well in TS. We have made some incredibly difficult apps work
> together on TS, but in the end you have a very complicated system that is
> hard to upgrade and change. So for certain organizations that have the
> skills to manage a PC but not a complex TS environment, VDI starts to become
> attractive.
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> One of our Bri-Forum sessions is called "Y-VDI" in which we will outline
> all the use cases we can think of that support VDI.
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> My main issues with VDI are lack of efficiency, i.e. a really big ass
> server might support 15-20 users, that completely sucks!!
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Jim Kenzig
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Presentation and Hosted Desktop
Virtualization
Citrix Technology Professional
Blog: http://www.techblink.com
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