[THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna" ofVirtualization
- From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:48:05 -0700
Oh crap, I just realized what the real killer app is for VDI..
Dana Carvey nailed it at SYNERGY, seemed like a joke but I think it is
right on the money !
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Douglas Brown
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
ofVirtualization
I agree but only if they don't burry it in XenApp Plat or XenDesktop Plat.
It needs to be a separate product for people who might not want to use
either XenApp or XenDesktop....
On 6/6/08 9:58 AM, "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Why also discuss PVS and if it should be part of XenApp Platinum ( I'm
willing to give up Edgesight and Password Manager in exchange) and should
Citrix fix their products or spend their money adding new features.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Kenzig
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:52 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Doug Brown thinks Citrix is the "Madonna"
ofVirtualization
Speaking of Joe this is one of my favorite picturess I took from Synergy
This is during Dougs Geek Speak session and is a picture of the front row.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#520320103904931
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From left to right Joe is the one Hovering standing next to Brad Stephens,
who is Next to Mark Templeton who is next to Shawn Bass (who had just
finished his VDI talk) Barry Flanagan, Jeroen Van De Kamp and Brian Madden
are in there also. Now use the right arrow and click over 2 pictures and
see how fast Brian catches Marks ear. Click 2 more to the right and there is
Grumpy Doug. And here is one of Steve, Joe and Doug picking apart VDI at
the CTP dinner
http://picasaweb.google.com/jkenzig/CitrixGeekSpeakCTP/photo#520320117648826
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Jim
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
This is a long standing debate between Joe and I . To me VDI, and most
hypervisor virtualizations for that matter, are just not efficient enough.
For applications that require remoting and certain kinds of processing I am
sure there is a good match, i.e. stock traders, CAD engineers working at a
distance, etc.
The case we are pondering more and more is where remoting is needed but the
requirements to get the application set working in TS are highly
complicated. These may not be highly specialized apps, but apps that just
don't play well in TS. We have made some incredibly difficult apps work
together on TS, but in the end you have a very complicated system that is
hard to upgrade and change. So for certain organizations that have the
skills to manage a PC but not a complex TS environment, VDI starts to become
attractive.
One of our Bri-Forum sessions is called "Y-VDI" in which we will outline all
the use cases we can think of that support VDI.
My main issues with VDI are lack of efficiency, i.e. a really big ass server
might support 15-20 users, that completely sucks!!
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