[THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:19:09 -0700

How many published apps are we talking about on 1 server?  The scripts I use
for publishing/unpublishing apps only takes 10-15 secs for approximately
15-20 published apps.

Joe

On 5/19/06, Eilers, Lee (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) <lee4@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Sorry for the delay, I do "not" have a script on start up. I was speaking to the Citrix engineer again and he mentioned putting in a change request for inclusion in the next release. Hell for all I car, add another box in that section that says "Logons Disabled on Reboot" or something.

He mentioned something about publishing/depublishing apps from a server
feature so that the server is accessible, but users won't hit the box if
there are no apps.  (As long as that feature does not take 30 minutes to
accomplish like that script does.  That script is great as an after market
solution, but as a Citrix coded answer, it would have to be within 10-20
seconds)

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 Have you check the system shutdown script to see if a chglogon /enable is
being set right before restart?



Joe


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That was suggested earlier and I did create that evaluator.

I also had pressed on our engineer at Citrix and he mentioned that it is a
"feature" of MPS 3.0.  In the CMC, for MPS3 with SP4 and PS4, under
Metaframe Settings, Control Options, it says* The "logon" setting remains
in effect after restarting server. *  Their interpretation is that this
means it will be enabled on reboot.  I read this to mean that what ever
setting I do, it will* "remain in effect"* after a restart.



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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:01 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting



Lee,

 Rather than disabling your logins, have you considered using a load
evaluator?  You could create one using the scheduling rule, remove the
"times of day" when the server is available, and then assign it to the
server you wish to reboot.  This will prevent users from getting access but
you could still connect via the console, which you can't do if you disable
logons.  Also, this will stay set regardless of whether or not you reboot
and regardless of whether you are running version 3 or 4. (Thanks to
BriForum 2006 for this tip).

 Cole.

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On Behalf Of Eilers, Lee (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting

 Windows 2000 SP4 and MPS3.0 with SP4  (we are migrating to 2003 and MPS4
later this year.)

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On Behalf Of Landin, Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:11 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Disabled Logins & Rebooting

Specify what OS and Citrix release you are using. They behave differently
in this area.



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Eilers, Lee (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)

        Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:24 AM
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        Subject: [THIN] Disabled Logins & Rebooting



        Here's the situation:



        I disable logins to one of my servers.  I did this via the CMC and
via the command-line, "change logon /disable", just to be sure.



        No users on the box.



        Start, Shutdown, Restart box



        In the CMC, Load Evaluators, I am seeing the users being directed
to various other boxes.  All of a sudden, 14 users are sent to the box that
was offline and in the process of rebooting.  The box evidently is marked by
Citrix to enabled mode prior to the reboot.



        This has been a REAL pet PIEVE of mine about when rebooting
servers, that they come backup enabled and ready to accept connections, but
I had not realized the impact it was having as they went down for a reboot.



        Why is it that a server would be enabled just as it is being
rebooted?  and to make matters worse, users are being directed to that box
while it is going down, where the logic?!?!? <RANT>





        So, am I missing something, or has everyone been suffering along
on this issue?


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