In my last job, we ended up ditching Cognos and re-doing all of our reports in SQL Reporting services, not only is it free with MS SQL Server, it's also web based and had a whole slew of things going for it when compared with upgrading Cognos and trying to get everything right again. The web interface was pretty dependent on Internet Explorer which was a pain, but that was the least of our concerns at the end of the day. I have to agree with your earlier comment Rick, the biggest problems that I have had under Citrix when getting applications working is wierd and strange places that people were putting .ini files and the requirements they had for logs etc. (Putting logs in the Program files directory, via hard coding too!) and the user having to have write access to the directory and all subfolders for the app to work. At the end of the day, it's really nice for things to be pretty, but as long as the numbers are right, for internal business use, it doesn't matter what you have. Berny _____ From: Rick Mack [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: 04 February 2006 21:59 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Cognos Hi Steve, The terrible thing is the developers are often telling the truth, even though their product was Windows certified back in the Win 9X days, and there's no way it would pass certification now. As far as Cognos goes, Cognos is reasonably well supported on TS in Australia, at least the Cognos support people know what Citrix is and have minimal documentation on getting Cognos to work. While I won't and can't criticise Cognos functionality, the application suffers from the fact that as their product complexity and customer base grew, the software was never properly redesigned for efficient network utilization, or indeed scalability. It's a stand alone desktop dinosaur that continues to live because marketting people don't care how something runs, just how it looks. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Steve Greenberg Sent: Sat 4/02/2006 14:48 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Cognos Rick, This has been our response to software developers for the last year or so and it really works. They all claim to be Windows certified but do not realize that this REQUIRES being compatible with Terminal Servers....! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Mack Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:05 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Cognos Hi, A number of my customers have it running and I can't recall it being particularly difficult. Vendors that make comments like that need to be reminded that there are now millions of seats of TS/Citrix and if they want to exclude themselves from that market with that sort of attitude, I'd be tempted to ask them if they could recommend a competing product. Seriously, the bulk of the problems you have with apps on TS/Citrix are due to the fact the applications are badly written or implemented. I'm seeing an increasing incidence of exactly the same problems happening on workstations where the users are no longer local admins. Registry and file system security just doesn't register on a lot of developer's radar, despite the fact that very explicit guidelines are available. There is one comeback you can use though. Ask if the application is Microsoft Windows certified. If it is, it's not allowed to clobber system components (eg replace/palce files in system32), must use HKCU\Software for all user configuration parameters, and stay strictly in it's own directory (instead of using the root of C:\ etc for temporary files store). If it isn't Microsoft Windows certified, ask why not, didn't it pass certification? ;-) regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems Level 2, 30 Little Cribb Street Coronation Drive Office Park Milton Qld 4064 tel: +61 7 32431847 fax: +61 7 32431992 rick.mack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Greg Reese Sent: Sat 4/02/2006 10:44 To: Thin Subject: [THIN] Cognos has anyone got Cognos Impromptu version 7 running on their farm? I have a Win2k3, PS4 farm i need to get it loaded on. The consultant from the company who sold this to us is telling me that the customers who try it on Citrix have "nothing but problems". 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