[THIN] Re: Cognos

  • From: "Rick Mack" <Rick.Mack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 07:59:29 +1000

Hi Steve, 
 
The terrible thing is the developers are often telling the truth, even though 
their product was Windows certified back in the Win 9X days, and there's no way 
it would pass certification now.
 
As far as Cognos goes, Cognos is reasonably well supported on TS in Australia, 
at least the Cognos support people know what Citrix is and have minimal 
documentation on getting Cognos to work. 
 
While I won't and can't criticise Cognos functionality, the application suffers 
from the fact that as their product complexity and customer base grew, the 
software was never properly redesigned for efficient network utilization, or 
indeed scalability. It's a stand alone desktop dinosaur that continues to live 
because marketting people don't care how something runs, just how it looks.
 
regards,
 
Rick
 
Ulrich Mack 
Volante Systems 


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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Sat 4/02/2006 14:48
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Cognos



Rick,

 

This has been our response to software developers for the last year or so and 
it really works. They all claim to be Windows certified but do not realize that 
this REQUIRES being compatible with Terminal Servers....!

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Rick Mack
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:05 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Cognos

 

Hi,

 

A number of my customers have it running and I can't recall it being 
particularly difficult. 

 

Vendors that make comments like that need to be reminded that there are now 
millions of seats of TS/Citrix and if they want to exclude themselves from that 
market with that sort of attitude, I'd be tempted to ask them if they could 
recommend a competing product.

 

Seriously, the bulk of the problems you have with apps on TS/Citrix are due to 
the fact the applications are badly written or implemented. I'm seeing an 
increasing incidence of exactly the same problems happening on workstations 
where the users are no longer local admins. Registry and file system security 
just doesn't register on a lot of developer's radar, despite the fact that very 
explicit guidelines are available.

 

There is one comeback you can use though. Ask if the application is Microsoft 
Windows certified. If it is, it's not allowed to clobber system components (eg 
replace/palce files in system32), must use HKCU\Software for all user 
configuration parameters, and stay strictly in it's own directory (instead of 
using the root of C:\ etc for temporary files store). If it isn't Microsoft 
Windows certified, ask why not, didn't it pass certification? ;-)

 

regards,

 

Rick

 

Ulrich Mack 
Volante Systems 
Level 2, 30 Little Cribb Street 
Coronation Drive Office Park 
Milton Qld 4064 
tel: +61 7 32431847 
fax: +61 7 32431992 
rick.mack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Greg Reese
Sent: Sat 4/02/2006 10:44
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] Cognos

has anyone got Cognos Impromptu version 7 running on their farm?

I have a Win2k3, PS4 farm i need to get it loaded on.  The consultant from the 
company who sold this to us is telling me that the customers who try it on 
Citrix have "nothing but problems".  Of course he follows it up with gems like 
"no report writer runs on Citrix" and "Citrix has too many other problems 
anyway". 

It doesn't look like anything spectacular to get running but If anyone else has 
fought with it, I would be interested to hear the tricks if there are any.


Thanks!

Greg

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