I know shared storage is available in ESX, I have it and am using it now. I didn't know Citrix had shared storage on XenServer, what are they using for a filesystem? Berny 2009/2/20 Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> > What do you mean? Shared storage is available now with VMware ESX and > XenServer. Microsoft is slated to have shared cluster support in Win 2008 > R2. > > > > Joe > > > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On > Behalf Of *Berny Stapleton > *Sent:* Friday, February 20, 2009 7:44 AM > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE > > > > Oh one more thing, lets see who gets their finger out first to do shared > storage out of the box. (Yes, I know RedHat has it with GFS, but I haven't > exactly heard of a lot of people using it) > > VMWare supports this now with their FS (VMFS) on EMC and NetApp. > > > 2009/2/20 Berny Stapleton <berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Xen in different flavours can be gotten from anywhere. MS is giving it away > with Windows 2003 R2, Xen is available in multiple Linux kernels and > distributions. So effectively, yes, it is free now. > > VMWare have given out ESXi for nothing, but it's the management tools that > cost (VMotion etc) > > If Citrix release all their management tools and everything else for > nothing, then the problem for VMWare then becomes "What are you guys > selling, and why should I buy it?". Mind you, that would effectively destroy > the market. > > Berny > > 2009/2/20 Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > But essentially its free **now** isn't it – its free for servers if you're > not going to do any management on them? > > > > The hypervisor component is a mere bagatelle imo .. all the major players > are looking to support the same image type – its essentially 'all cars run > on petrol' –it's the management of the virtual services, the feeding and the > watering of them for enterprise solutions – that's where the development and > license cost is going to go ... as well as services obviously. > > > > > > > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On > Behalf Of *Greg Reese > *Sent:* 20 February 2009 12:39 > *To:* Thin > > > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE > > > > Microsoft is going to love watching a price war. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Berny Stapleton <berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Umm, I think EMC still own part of them, but they were seperated and > floated. > > > How come I get the feeling that VMWare is the next Novell! > > I hadn't thought about that, but everyone seems to be rallying around Xen, > and if VMWare don't drop their price, it could well be a right thrashing for > them. > > Berny > > 2009/2/20 Greg Reese <gareese@xxxxxxxxx> > > Vmware is still an emc company right? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:57 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > Not a bad choice this week but after next week the rumors are strong > that not only is Citrix going to give away the hypervisor, but also the > Enterprise features such as Xen Motion and storage repositories. It will get > very interesting, very quickly if this really happens!! > > > > How come I get the feeling that VMWare is the next Novell!?!!?! J > > > > *Steve Greenberg* > > Thin Client Computing > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 > > Scottsdale, AZ 85266 > > *(602) 432-8649* > > www.thinclient.net > > *steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx* > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] > *On Behalf Of *Jan > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:24 PM > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE > > > > Wow... we recently bought VMware ESX for 7 servers. I'm wondering if that > was a bad fiscal choice in light of this. > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim <timothylanderson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > Free XenServer virtualization hypervisor helps Citrix, partners say > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > By Colin Steele, Site Editor > 19 Feb 2009 | SearchSystemsChannel.com > > > > > > > > The server virtualization hypervisor wars are heating up. Citrix plans to > give away XenServer > 5<http://citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=683148>-- its > Xen hypervisor, along with live migration, native Windows and Linux > support and other advanced features -- for free. > > Rest of article at.... > > > > > http://searchsystemschannel.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid99_gci1348572,00.html?track=NL-738&ad=690018&Offer=CHSYunsc219&asrc=EM_USC_5906881&uid=1857222 > > > > > > > > >