Oh one more thing, lets see who gets their finger out first to do shared storage out of the box. (Yes, I know RedHat has it with GFS, but I haven't exactly heard of a lot of people using it) VMWare supports this now with their FS (VMFS) on EMC and NetApp. 2009/2/20 Berny Stapleton <berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Xen in different flavours can be gotten from anywhere. MS is giving it away > with Windows 2003 R2, Xen is available in multiple Linux kernels and > distributions. So effectively, yes, it is free now. > > VMWare have given out ESXi for nothing, but it's the management tools that > cost (VMotion etc) > > If Citrix release all their management tools and everything else for > nothing, then the problem for VMWare then becomes "What are you guys > selling, and why should I buy it?". Mind you, that would effectively destroy > the market. > > Berny > > > 2009/2/20 Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > But essentially its free **now** isn't it – its free for servers if >> you're not going to do any management on them? >> >> >> >> The hypervisor component is a mere bagatelle imo .. all the major players >> are looking to support the same image type – its essentially 'all cars run >> on petrol' –it's the management of the virtual services, the feeding and the >> watering of them for enterprise solutions – that's where the development and >> license cost is going to go ... as well as services obviously. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On >> Behalf Of *Greg Reese >> *Sent:* 20 February 2009 12:39 >> *To:* Thin >> >> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE >> >> >> >> Microsoft is going to love watching a price war. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Berny Stapleton <berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >> Umm, I think EMC still own part of them, but they were seperated and >> floated. >> >> > How come I get the feeling that VMWare is the next Novell! >> >> I hadn't thought about that, but everyone seems to be rallying around Xen, >> and if VMWare don't drop their price, it could well be a right thrashing for >> them. >> >> Berny >> >> 2009/2/20 Greg Reese <gareese@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> Vmware is still an emc company right? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:57 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >> Not a bad choice this week but after next week the rumors are strong >> that not only is Citrix going to give away the hypervisor, but also the >> Enterprise features such as Xen Motion and storage repositories. It will get >> very interesting, very quickly if this really happens!! >> >> >> >> How come I get the feeling that VMWare is the next Novell!?!!?! J >> >> >> >> *Steve Greenberg* >> >> Thin Client Computing >> >> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 >> >> Scottsdale, AZ 85266 >> >> *(602) 432-8649* >> >> www.thinclient.net >> >> *steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx* >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] >> *On Behalf Of *Jan >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:24 PM >> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE >> >> >> >> Wow... we recently bought VMware ESX for 7 servers. I'm wondering if that >> was a bad fiscal choice in light of this. >> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim <timothylanderson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> *Error! Filename not specified.* >> Free XenServer virtualization hypervisor helps Citrix, partners say >> >> *Error! Filename not specified.* >> >> By Colin Steele, Site Editor >> 19 Feb 2009 | SearchSystemsChannel.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The server virtualization hypervisor wars are heating up. Citrix plans to >> give away XenServer >> 5<http://citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=683148>-- its >> Xen hypervisor, along with live migration, native Windows and Linux >> support and other advanced features -- for free. >> >> Rest of article at.... >> >> >> >> >> http://searchsystemschannel.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid99_gci1348572,00.html?track=NL-738&ad=690018&Offer=CHSYunsc219&asrc=EM_USC_5906881&uid=1857222 >> >> >> >> >> >> >