That's the thing, I do have XPa with the ability to do Load Balancing... I guess I'm not using it, huh? Tasita Ebacher 702 Communications Data Systems Engineer CCNA -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Minero Hector B DLVA Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:51 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference? If you are happy with DNS round robin, then stay with it. If you are ever running a much larger farm, then you should consider getting MetaFrame XPa or Microsoft Load Balancing. _________________________________ Hector Minero NSWCDD Code K55 Ph: (540)653-8859 Fax:(540)653-8575 -----Original Message----- From: Tasita Ebacher [mailto:tebacher@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:27 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference? Ummm, Ok, I am going to admit my ignorance on this subject! I attended a Citrix training class, and was taught to use Round Robin DNS, so I did. I have 2 servers that get connections from around 10 users who just connect to a desktop. Round Robin DNS directs the users connecting between the 2 servers. Is there a better way to do this? You make Round Robin DNS sound so barbaric that I would assume there is a better way! Tasita Ebacher 702 Communications Data Systems Engineer CCNA -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudio Rodrigues Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:03 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference? Everyone does DNS Round Robin. They are just shy to admit in public what they did. :-) -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Oglesby Sent: May 21, 2004 12:52 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=20 Ok, c'mon Claudio. DNS round robin!!!!!! LOL. Just had to do that. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect Microsoft MVP - Windows Server =20 RapidApp, Chicago Mobile 815 325-7618 Office 312 372-7188 e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =20 -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claudio Rodrigues Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:38 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=20 Terminal Services can do load balancing. Windows 2003 has built-in NLB on Server. 2000 can do with Advanced Server. It is not resource based though. Depending on the environment (Ron will kill me after this sentence) you can even use DNS Round Robin - the cheap-o-matic(tm) solution. Or use WTSGateway or WTSGateway Pro. Most people usually say Citrix has everything centralized, enterprise features bla bla bla. My experience tells me that when you go to BIG environments, they already have a tool to monitor resources (TNG, Tivoli, NetIQ, etc) that are 1000 times better than RMS (that is a piece of crap and like Wordstar 2000 was one of the few products in history that got 1000 worse on version 2.0 than on 1.0). For deploying apps and so on these places use something like Altiris, SMS etc, again, much better than IMS on Citrix. So at the end these big corporations pay for MetaFrame Xpe but at the end they would need Xpa only. So I tend to disagree Citrix has all the corporate things built-in. It has if you are a cheapo corporation. If you are really after the top stuff you will never use RMS/IMS. Can TS do everything like Citrix? Well depends on the environment. For small companies, for sure. For medium, it depends. That is why people like me, Ron and Brian have a job. :-) -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Van Gerpen Sent: May 20, 2004 5:32 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Citrix VS Terminal services, what's the difference?=3D20 I administrate Windows 2000 network and Citrix Medaframe XP. Looking at CO$T$ and maintenance associated with Citrix I'm considering scrapping Citrix and going with a Terminal services RDP environment. All my clients are WinXP and Wyse terminals (RDP). The only down side I know is the load balancing Citrix can do, and Terminal services cannot. What do you think the advantages and disadvantages are between RDP & ICA?=3D20 Is Terminal services as functional as Citrix? 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