[THIN] Re: CSG really necessary?

  • From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 14:38:42 -0400

If you are using NAT on your firewall, I thought you did simply so the
servers themselves knew what to return.  But I will admit, I put CSG AND
Nfuse in at the same time.

-Paul

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> From:         Magnus[SMTP:magnus@xxxxxxxx]
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> Sent:         Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:35 PM
> To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      [THIN] Re: CSG really necessary?
> 
> 
> Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that with Nfuse 1.7 that you did
> not
> need to set altaddr on the mf servers any more?
> 
> Magnus
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Stansel, Paul
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:23 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: CSG really necessary?
> 
> 
> 
> It really is a matter of exposure.  CSG is cheap to implement aside from
> the
> 2 servers, and it allows you to secure your boxes.  My users can no longer
> make direct connections to my Citrix boxes over the altaddr, and I think
> that's great.
> 
> -Paul
> 
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> > From:       Pfeifer, Bruce A
> > MSER:EX[SMTP:Bruce.A.Pfeifer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Reply To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent:       Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:20 PM
> > To:         'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject:    [THIN] Re: CSG really necessary?
> > 
> > 
> > I agree with you Scott, is CSG really needed.
> > We currently enforce 128 bit encryption on our MFXP servers and allow
> only
> > 1494 and 1604 connectivity through the firewall to them. (RDP is
> disable)
> > 
> > We will be adding NFuse to the DMZ and at that point in time allow SSL 
> > port 443 connectivity between NFuse and the WTS servers but continue 
> > to utilizes
> > 1494 and 1604.  We do not plan to force dramatic changes for our
> customers
> > as to how they connect. (end users don't like change)
> > 
> > We have never had any issues or attacks via 1494 or 1604.  Are attacks 
> > on these ports common, how much of a demand is there for a CSG server?
> > 
> > Bruce Pfeifer
> > Victoria BC.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Reichardt [mailto:sreichardt@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:05 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] CSG really necessary?
> > 
> > 
> > Im using MF XP 1.0.  If I have NFUSE 1.7 running on a DMZ using SSL 
> > encryption and everyone connecting to the published apps using 
> > secureica RC5 128 bit encryption, is a Citrix Secure Gateway really 
> > necessary?  I'd rather
> > not have to dedicate another box for a CSG if everything is already
> > getting
> > encrypted.
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