I'm not sure I understand your comment, "Remember that once the connection between the end user and the presentation server is complete the CAG is no longer involved." How so? The whole point of the CAG (besides SSL VPN) and Presentation Server is act as an SSL Proxy for ICA traffic. That means all ICA Connection goes through the CAG. If they do not then what's the point of the CAG to begin with? Throw an SSL cert on the WI box and do SSL Relay to the Presentation Servers. Or use CSG. Also, if you're doing this for customers you should absolutely know the licensing requirements and implications. Citrix takes this stuff very seriously. Just because something is technically possible doesn't make it legal. If cost of box shouldn't be an issue, the licenses alone make the hardware look cheap. If it really is an issue then use CSG instead. It's practically free. Joe -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Hancock Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:34 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG as a VM One of our clients has about 300 users running thru it and we have no complaints. We use WI 4.5 in front of 16 Dell blade servers for the 4.0 presentation servers. Remember that once the connection between the end user and the presentation server is complete the CAG is no longer involved. So the only place that it could slow anything down would be the login. We have about 15-20 second logons with Flex-Profiles. Another CAG I maintain is an ASP for medical apps and it works fine as well. (portal.clinicanywhere.com) I do not know about the licensing, eek. Mike -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of msemon@xxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:23 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG as a VM How is the performance? Some of the posts say the performance is terrible because the virtualization layer has to translate the TCP/IP calls. Also, is this a violation of the Citrix licensing agreement? Citrix technically still considers this an appliance. Original Message: ----------------- From: Mike Hancock MHancock@xxxxxxx Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:52:06 -0500 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG as a VM I am running 4 separate CAGs on client networks on ESX VMs. Works great! I have been building all of my "CTX Infrastructure" on VMs for the last 2 years and have no regrets. Mike Hancock -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of msemon@xxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:11 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] CAG as a VM Anyone running CAG as a Virtual machine? Interested to see anyones experiences or pros and cons of running CAG as VM. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************ ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************ -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************ ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************ ************************************************ For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: //www.freelists.org/list/thin ************************************************