[THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
- From: "Hutchinson, Alan" <Alan.Hutchinson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:55:05 -0000
Ditto - we already have one too, but are looking at this as well for its
ability to restrict applications depending on device type/locattion etc.
and apparent ease of use for the luser.
Regards,
Alan.
P.S. Anyone got their hands on a 4.2 box yet - we've been told 23rd
November for the U.K. - any sign of any manuals?
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M
Sent: 10 November 2005 16:45
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
We also already have a VPN solution, free (Cisco), but are evaluating
this CAG, due to it's ease of use, configuration, ease for the end user,
etc.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jeff Durbin
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:19 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
Good point about concurrent licensing; I'd have to look at how many
concurrent users we have externally at a given time. But regardless of
the number, I'm not paying for VPN licenses to get CSG functionality.
It's a bummer because I really like the VPN functionality, but other VPN
technologies are on the table at my company. It would have been a great
way to let some users start validating the VPN functionality, which
*could* have ultimately been a huge VPN win for Citrix.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:31 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
Hardware is $2495, list price, a good vendor can cut that some.
We are looking to buy 2, for load balance/redundancy.
We have thousands of VPN users, but only see @ 100-150 concurrent at
peak times.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:17 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
That is a fair point, if they gave away the CSG functionality for the
price of the hardware there would be a lot of shops that would be happy
to move to the new platform. These users could then become VPN users in
the future- point well taken.......
BTW, the hardsware is $2495 and the licenses are concurrent so I doubt
you would need 3500 licenses!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jeff Durbin
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:43 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
That's pretty crappy. I'm still paying $3,000 for the appliance, to
replace a Windows server that's running free software. I have 3500 users
with access via the CSG, and obviously, there's no way I'm paying
$350,000 to replace our CSG's. Too bad for Citrix, as they could
potentially have gotten a foothold in our VPN space via the CSG
replacement.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:04 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
Yes it does require licenses. It is a replacement, but not a free
replacement. Once the user connects you can configure whether you give
them a full VPN tunnel, hand off to WI (CSG), or kiosk mode. Any
combination of these features requires a CAG concurrent license. The
good news is that box performs extremely well, is wel integrated with
all the CTX products. The even better news is that it is a hardened
LINUX OS and not Windows pretending to be a security device!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:49 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement
In addition to being a SSL VPN, the CAG is being positioned as a
replacement for CSG. Does anyone know if the CSG functionality requires
a CAG license?
Thanks,
JD
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