That's pretty crappy. I'm still paying $3,000 for the appliance, to replace a Windows server that's running free software. I have 3500 users with access via the CSG, and obviously, there's no way I'm paying $350,000 to replace our CSG's. Too bad for Citrix, as they could potentially have gotten a foothold in our VPN space via the CSG replacement. _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:04 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement Yes it does require licenses. It is a replacement, but not a free replacement. Once the user connects you can configure whether you give them a full VPN tunnel, hand off to WI (CSG), or kiosk mode. Any combination of these features requires a CAG concurrent license. The good news is that box performs extremely well, is wel integrated with all the CTX products. The even better news is that it is a hardened LINUX OS and not Windows pretending to be a security device! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:49 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] CAG Licenses Required for CSG Replacement In addition to being a SSL VPN, the CAG is being positioned as a replacement for CSG. Does anyone know if the CSG functionality requires a CAG license? Thanks, JD