[THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
- From: "Andy Lalaguna" <Andy.lalaguna@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:00:13 -0000
Greg,
Just found this... check out the environmental specifications.
How 'heavy' is heavy use?
http://www.xploretech.com/pdfs/ix104_0103_1.pdf
AndyL
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 February 2003 22:55
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
true. they do have roll up and portable keyboards that would work. =3D
There are ways to make anything work in the end (just needs more duct =
=3D
tape) :)
If they absolutely have to have a clamshell form factor like some of the
=3D
older CE Jornada's. they are going to have a hard time finding them.
Fujitsu used to make some like that. I am not sure if they still do. =
=3D
try Currie Peak and Frasier. They have a decent range of models.
www.cpfinc.com
Most clamshell ce devices are being dropped in favor of the tablet pc.
=3D
I still think that a tablet pc is just a fancy laptop with a touch =3D
screen and handwriting recognition. I think they are too delicate for a
=3D
true road warrior or a heavy use application.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: TheThin [mailto:TheThin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:42 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Yeah, but you can't fold them in half and put them in a briefcase. I
also am looking for a true laptop factor thin client and haven't been
able to find one. I think in the end it comes down to the fact that any
device with an LCD is going to be close to or exceed the cost of an
inexpensive laptop so the vendors figure (probably correctly) it will be
a hard sell. Although some of us truly want one. =3D3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
Posted At: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:21 PM
Posted To: TheThin
Conversation: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
sure they do. We plug USB keyboard into them and they work great. They
=3D3D3D also have PS2 ports. We are going to try a logitech wireless =
=3D3D
keyboard
=3D3D3D and mouse with them sometime next month.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Sorenson [mailto:bsorenson@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:19 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
The client that's looking for the notebook wants a full keyboard and
mouse/pointing device. Something that would allow "normal" typing usage
for business applications. The tablets don't quite fit the bill from
their point of view.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:11 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
We just took a bracket designed for mounting laptops in police cars and
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bolted it to the top of a med cart. The pharmacy service provides us =
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the carts as part of their contract. The system makes their life easier
=3D3D3D3D3D too so they were all for it. The mount has a lock on it that =
=3D
=3D3D
keeps
the =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D devices from walking away on us.
The app our nurses use is an electronic charting systems that is also a
=3D3D3D3D3D physicians orders system. It is letting us make all of our
charting =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D completely paperless. It also sends email =
=3D
alerts =3D3D
and
pages to the =3D3D3D3D3D doctors when they want them and they can access =
=3D
it
through nfuse to =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D monitor their patients. the =
doctors, =3D
=3D3D
nurses,
AND the state like it which =3D3D3D3D3D is hard to accomplish in =
Florida.
Everybody in our facility loves the tablets. They are getting their =3D
=3D3D3D
=3D3D3D3D3D work done in half the time which lets them spend more =
personal
time with =3D3D3D3D3D the patients.=3D3D3D3D3D20
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Stage, Paul [mailto:p.stage@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:59 AM
To: Stage, Paul
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Sounds like you basically just went with a Tremont cart for probably =3D
=3D3D3D
=3D3D3D3D3D half the price.:) We currently have the Tremont carts and =
are
looking for a =3D3D3D3D3D type of tablet device to use for our nurses =
and
Dr's. Sounds like the =3D3D3D3D3D technology is there, but not yet =
really
useful in our environment (Hospital). If anyone know of any other
devices that would be useful, let me know.
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D3D20
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
I have been researching these for our facility for almost a year.
www.infocater.com has a lot if info on the different brands. Tablets =
=3D
=3D3D
=3D3D3D
=3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D fall into two categories. Those =
running =3D
the =3D3D
Windows
tablet pc platform =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D and have =
a hard =3D
drive =3D3D
etc. Why
this is not classified as a laptop is =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D =3D
=3D3D3D3D3D3D beyond =3D3D
me.
the other is a diskless ce or Linux device. There are less of these out
=3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D there and many of the ones out there, like the =
=3D3D
Viewsonic,
are pretty =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D delicate.
I have two rugged tablets from Advantech on my desk. They are nice but
=3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D their flash management is a joke.
Wyse and Neoware both have nearly identical tablets available. Both are
=3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D made for them by Airspeak. The flash =
management is
=3D
=3D3D
better
but these are =3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D heavier and bigger than most =3D
tablets.
Our nurses did not want to carry the larger tablets.
I have found several companies that make mounting solutions for tablets
=3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D and notebooks. This got me around the too big =
to =3D
carry
issue (we went =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D with the =
Neoware). =3D
It also =3D3D
keeps it
safe from drops and spills which =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D =
=3D3D3D3D3D3D are
=3D
=3D3D
inevitable.
For my project, we are mounting tablets to nurses carts for them to use
=3D3D3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D3D3D for dispensing medications etc.
hope this is the info you are looking for.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Sorenson [mailto:bsorenson@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:16 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
On a little different note, does anyone know of a good Thin Client
that's in a notebook format? We've got a Citrix desktop client that
wants to move forward with a terminal notebook.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hardy [mailto:Chris.Hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:59 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Thanks Mike - I'll take a look=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D20
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Batters
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 21/02/03 10:44
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Chris,
No big story like Glenn I am afraid just a quick recommendation.
Many of our clients use VXL Netica terminals as thin clients. Cheap
Linux based devices, really easy to set up, remote manage etc etc.....
Have a look at www.vxl.net for more info.
Regards,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Chris Hardy
Sent: 20 February 2003 22:16
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
Great story Glenn - Thanks for that - also very useful info.
In all my research I have found that neoware do make the best thin
clients but the way you are using old P 1/2/3 is great too.
Again thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Sullivan, Glenn
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: 20/02/03 23:51
Subject: [THIN] Re: Best Thin Client Hardware
In my case, my Terminal Services implementation was designed to extend
the useful life of the existing Pentium 1/2/3 workstations in the
company, while also reducing support costs through centralization.
So I did a bunch of testing, and came up with what I believe is the
ideal "Thin Client" for my company: a stripped down, rebuilt desktop
with a custom shell.
Now, when it comes time to convert someone from a full-blown desktop to
a Terminal Client, I give them a temporary machine that is already set
up to connect, and take their machine.
If it is capable of running windows 2000 (even barely):
*Add a PXE compliant NIC
*Perform a RIS unattended CD-Based install with a custom SIF file
*Remove the PXE NIC (their old NIC works fine, but will not do RIS)
*Rename the machine *Move the created computer account into a "Thin
Clients" OU.
*GPO is very restrictive
*AutoLogon with a service account is setup via Startup Script
*RDP Client 5.1 is installed via GPO
*A Custom Explorer Shell Replacement program is install by GPO
*That shell replacement is used at boot instead of Explorer.exe
*Startup script checks for a new version of the shell at boot
*If Found, it is copied locally
*Sets up PendingFileRenameOperations to replace old version at boot
*Reboots
If it cannot run Windows 2000:
*Add a NE2000 compatible NIC
*Boot with a custom boot disk
*Wipes all partitions & reboots
*Creates a single 100% partition & reboots
*formats, connects to the network, and copies Win98SE source files
down
*Pauses so you can remove the NE2000 Nic and reboot
*Automatically installs Win98SE at bootup, unattended.
*Log into Win98 with a service account
*logon Script sets up shell replacement, and does similar version
checking.
The Custom Shell has the ability to also run applications installed
locally (for example, a Digital Camera utility) and because the machines
themselves are running a full operating system, I can share a printer,
install VNC, do just about anything I want with them...
And, after all that, some people who have had nothing but VT terminals
(don't ask) get Neoware Capio 610's as a replacement. They have worked
well for us.
So that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it,
Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA
David Clark Company Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hardy [mailto:Chris.Hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:27 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Best Thin Client Hardware
Hi All
I would like to ask the list for what people is the best thin client
hardware.
I understand that your first question will be what is it going to be
used for. Well, let me put it back to everyone by saying - Lets go from
the very basic to the most feature rich models.
Any stories (about thin client hardware ofcourse :)) )that come along
with your advise on this matter would also be nice.
Thanks Guys and Gals
Chris
P.S: Come to think of it - any stories would be nice - there isnt enough
story telling on the list :))))
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