[THIN] Re: Assistance....those using Thin Clients ( WYSE/Compa q)
- From: "Bill Chappell" <bill.chappell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:42:28 -0500
My thoughts may be biased since I work for Neoware, but I think I may add
value to this thread.
Currently, thin clients based on CE or NeoLinux have been immune to viruses
and/or worms.
XPe based thin clients can be susceptable to IE based virus' and worms
(RPC/DCOM stuff)
When MS puts out a patch, we test to see if it affects our thin clients.
About 25% of them do pertain.
We then re-package them to only include the files that are required (mostly
replaced)and provide them free of charge to our customers. If the customer
is using ezRemote Manager, they can push or pull the updates from a central
location. If the customer is using SMS, Altiris or Tivoli and wants to
distribute from these tools, you would need to re-package the affected
files, which are listed in our release notes, and put them into the proper
format to deliver.
XPe comes with an "Enhanced Write Filter" that eliminates permantent writes
to flash, instead, storing the "writes" to a RAM overlay file. When power
is recycled, the changes are gone, eliminating a worm or virus if your
patching is not "up-to-date".
We also provide a firewall that you can download for free (to be includded
in SP2).
I don't know of any customers that have had problems while following these
best practices.
Some of our customers have purchased XPe thin clients with larger flash and
added standard anti-virus packages like Symantec and McAfee.
With Neoware thin clients,if you do run out of storage due to adding
components (XPe and NeoLinux are customizable)or your needs change, you can
always replace the flash to add additional space or to migrate to other
OS's.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:03 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Assistance....those using Thin Clients ( WYSE/Compa
q)
You may not use the local IE, but you still must patch it, correct?
Does CE require as much patching (security) as other OS? I don't believe
so.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeff Malczewski
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:11 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Assistance....those using Thin Clients (WYSE/Compaq)
We use WYSE CE-based thin clients.. There are NO local peripherals, every
printer in the place is on the network, and EVERYTHING the user needs is
contained within the TS environment.
We went so far with our Win9x clients as to modify the system.ini file and
change the shell from explorer.exe to mstsc.exe.. That way, the machine
comes up, boots to the nasty green-ish background, and then connects
directly to TS. We only use the OS on the box to hijack it's video drivers
and TCP/IP stack. No local printers, don't use the local IE, nothing.
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:51:33 -0600, Scott Skrogstad <scott@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Then I would suggest the Capio NeoLinux units. Disk space is not an
> issue and local printing is not an issue. They do have limitted USB
> support and have a parallel port.
>
> The nice thing about Neoware is they will send you one to try for 30
> days for FREE...
>
> Scott
>
> ----------------------Original message------------------- Only thing
> we typically connect to them are either a Serial or parallel printer
> on some. I know to be sure to get a few with parallel for that
> application.
>
> Interesting thought Jim. I had not thought about the disk space
> issue, as that is the issue we have on our current Despros, lack of
> disk for ptaches and such, so we rebuild as DOS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Skrogstad [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:44 AM
> To: Schneider, Chad M; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [THIN] Assistance....those using Thin Clients
> (WYSE/Compaq)
>
> We use and sell the Neoware Capio product. We have had great results
> with the NeoLinux based verions. Very straight forward units and very
> inexpensive. The big question in used a XP or XPE based unit is what
> devices are you going to attach to them, ie. Palm Pilots, Web Cams,
> and USB scanners. Things like that require an XP or XPE operating
> system to get them attached and useable by the software.
>
> Scott
>
> ----------------------Original message------------------- I finally
> have management looking seriously at replacing some of our Deskpro
> 2000/4000's with thin clients.
>
> Mentality up until recently was to spend a few bucks more and get a
> full PC.
>
> Big thing I am wondering about is patching of the thin clients. IE,
> OS, etc. Some machines we have rebuilt as DOS clients, which allows
> us to avoid such client side patching. No Virus Scan, no M$ patches,
> etc.
>
> I see Linux thins, I see XP SP2 thins, I see CE thins....., Windows
> based clients have IE6, now, I would assume that things like XP, IE,
> even CE would still need patching. If so, does the use of the
> management software make this more feasible?
>
> Forgive my ignorance on this issue.
>
> Chad M. Schneider
> Technology Analyst
> Bemis Company, Inc.
> 920-303-7609
> "Just because you can, does not mean that you should."
>
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