[THIN] Re: Article: Microsoft declares war on Cisco

I don't think it is one sided at all.  Look at Softricity.  SoftGrid played in 
a completely different space when compared to Citrix yet Citrix uninvited 
Softricity from iForum and refused to let Softricity have a booth at their 
shows because they looked at Softricity as a direct competitor yet Softricity 
was a new company in a new space with just one product.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Schneider, Chad M 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:24 PM
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  True.

   

  Just thinking one sided I guess.

   


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  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:10 AM
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  One niche device does not a competitor make.  Cisco makes dozens of types of 
devices. 

  JK

  Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    What do you mean?  That Netscaler/CAG is not a competitor to Cisco? or it 
is?  The Netscaler/CAG competes directly with Cisco's inferor CSS line and SSL 
VPN concentrator.

    Joe

    On 8/31/06, Schneider, Chad M <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

    From the Netscaler/CAG area.I would say so..

     


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    From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
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    Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:20 AM
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    Subject: [THIN] Article: Microsoft declares war on Cisco

     

    Hmm..now Citrix is a competitor with Cisco??
    JK
    Microsoft declares war on Cisco 
    From: 
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2163150/microsoft-declares-war-cisco 
    Conflict to centre on the 'critical battleground' of the branch office
    Robert Jaques, vnunet.com 30 Aug 2006

    Microsoft's recent alliance with Citrix Systems to develop wide area 
network (Wan) optimisation technology represents a declaration of war on Cisco 
in the "critical battleground" of the branch office, Gartner has reported.

    According to the analyst firm, the Redmond giant's tie-up with thin client 
firm Citrix is the culmination of a "long-simmering rivalry" with Cisco, and 
has the potential to transform the Wan optimisation market.

    The comments come after Microsoft and Citrix announced an expansion of 
their established partnership that will result in a jointly developed and 
marketed Citrix-branded branch office box.

    Gartner said that this product is scheduled to ship in the second quarter 
of next year and will be based on Citrix's WANScaler product line gained 
through its recent acquisition of Orbital Data, and on Microsoft's Windows 
Server and Internet Security and Acceleration Server.

    "Microsoft clearly considers Cisco a significant threat to its dominance in 
the enterprise software market, and views the branch office as a critical 
battleground for application and network architectures," stated a Gartner 
advisory.

    "Cisco and Microsoft have avoided direct competition until recently, but 
the merging of networking, security, storage and applications made this 
confrontation inevitable.

    "Microsoft is launching new networking capabilities within Vista and the 
'Longhorn' version of Windows Server, and is pursuing partners in the voice 
arena, for example Nortel." 

    The analyst firm also believes that there will now be much more conflict 
between Cisco and Microsoft, a battle it originally predicted in 1997.

    "Microsoft is building a team of networking vendors to compete with Cisco. 
Citrix brings credibility in branch office application delivery through its 
Presentation Server and NetScaler products," the Gartner report stated.

    "By adding Orbital Data, Citrix now has an end-to-end application delivery 
family that is broader than Cisco's.

    "With a rapidly expanding portfolio, good strategic partnering and 
software-centric channels, Citrix is a serious competitor and potential 
roadblock to Cisco's aspirations to control application delivery.

    "The future WANScaler appliance promises to provide Wan optimisation, 
content distribution, security and branch office services.

    "When combined with Microsoft's marketing might and strategic customer 
relationships, this product is likely to quickly appear on prospective 
customers' shortlists once it is released."

    Gartner believes that Microsoft's tie-up with Citrix will change the 
selling dynamic for Wan optimisation controllers, branch office boxes and, to a 
lesser degree, application delivery controllers.

    "Because Cisco will not be the default choice, we believe its influence is 
likely to weaken. In addition, sales cycles will are likely to lengthen, and 
smaller vendors will find selling tougher," Gartner stated.

    However, the analyst firm went on to predict that the Microsoft/Citrix 
partnership will face "some challenges" as the published product delivery date 
is "very aggressive".

    Given these concerns it advises firms to continue their existing 
business-critical Wan optimisation implementations because its estimates that 
the Microsoft/Citrix product is 18 months away.

     

    Jim Kenzig 

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